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Well, I don't see why it couldn't be. I started the thread, and I could not ever imagine a chivalrous person behaving in that manner.
I think it could have very much to do with it. I can absolutely imagine some of the kids from my sons old high school behaving in that manner and I would be willing to bet you could pick out which ones would be doing it.
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If someone has asked already, please forgive me, but do you all think that chivalry has declined as feminism has risen? It makes sense at a glance, but I've never really given it any critical thought.
If someone has asked already, please forgive me, but do you all think that chivalry has declined as feminism has risen? It makes sense at a glance, but I've never really given it any critical thought.
What say the CD crowd?
I think chivalry has declined as narcissism, consumerism, materialism, misogyny, and feminism's sexual freedom has risen. In my opinion this combo has lead to a decrease in etiquette, guys regarding gals as human beings, and incentive for guys to treat gals with any respect or kindness as sex can be easily gotten and it seems guys are mainly nice/respectful/chivalrous in hopes of getting sex.
"Hitting that" reminds me of the trained rats and other animals in behavioral experiments where they hit a little button to get a dose of kibble. It's mindless cause and effect. I so agree with the OP.
I think chivalry has declined as narcissism, consumerism, materialism, misogyny, and feminism's sexual freedom has risen. In my opinion this combo has lead to a decrease in etiquette, guys regarding gals as human beings, and incentive for guys to treat gals with any respect or kindness as sex can be easily gotten and it seems guys are mainly nice/respectful/chivalrous in hopes of getting sex.
Good points. It is more than just feminism. Thank you for adding those factors. Generally we don't have a lot of respect for our fellow man any more. Not just on a level of chivalry and gentlemanliness, but just a complete disregard for each other. Music has reduced women to an object to be conquered. Even cheerleaders at sporting events are a very open objectification of women. Funny how nobody objects to this. Movies and video games have glorified violence and raised the destruction of the human body to an art form. Our conviction to treat others with respect is simply waning with time. If you ask me, this is the root cause for tragedies such as the school shooting in CT or the theater shooting in CO. People want to make laws so this sort of thing won't happen, but you can't legislate human behavior such that people once again develop a sense of value for one another. That is something each one of us has to pledge to do on our own.
If someone has asked already, please forgive me, but do you all think that chivalry has declined as feminism has risen? It makes sense at a glance, but I've never really given it any critical thought.
What say the CD crowd?
I have not noticed one way or the other, but I do think you make a valid point therem or ask a valid question.
Good points. It is more than just feminism. Thank you for adding those factors. Generally we don't have a lot of respect for our fellow man any more. Not just on a level of chivalry and gentlemanliness, but just a complete disregard for each other. Music has reduced women to an object to be conquered. Even cheerleaders at sporting events are a very open objectification of women. Funny how nobody objects to this. Movies and video games have glorified violence and raised the destruction of the human body to an art form. Our conviction to treat others with respect is simply waning with time. If you ask me, this is the root cause for tragedies such as the school shooting in CT or the theater shooting in CO. People want to make laws so this sort of thing won't happen, but you can't legislate human behavior such that people once again develop a sense of value for one another. That is something each one of us has to pledge to do on our own.
This, too, is a very good post. People do have a disregard for one another. I have never been this way, nor did I raise my children to be this way.
It all comes from the very beginnings, the very basics. What we are taught at home. How we are allowed to behave. How we are taught to behave.
Children learn what they live, and that is normally represented in their outward behaviors.
I am always very happy when a young man opens a door for me. It gives me a little hope....
I don't think you can extrapolate what adults say to one another in adult settings to how they raise their children or whether they engage in common courtesy like opening a door for someone in public.
I don't think you can extrapolate what adults say to one another in adult settings to how they raise their children or whether they engage in common courtesy like opening a door for someone in public.
Well for one thing, it really isn't only adults saying this. It also isn't only in adult settings. I have heard this said right out in the open in public places, and in front of minors by both adults and minors.
I really do think it has much to do with how kids are being raised, I really do. You need to have some kind of manners, truly, and it is common courtesy not to say something like that to a person.
If one of my kids said it in my hearing, I would admonish them and they would know I didn't approve and why. But I can't imagine them using that sort of language about others in the first place.
It wouldn't stop them from saying it when I wasn't around though I guess.
My kids just aren't disrespectful like that to others, probably because they haven't been brought up around it, even at their school the kids were pretty respectful around adults. Thank you Catholic Church.
Well, I don't see why it couldn't be. I started the thread, and I could not ever imagine a chivalrous person behaving in that manner.
I think it could have very much to do with it. I can absolutely imagine some of the kids from my sons old high school behaving in that manner and I would be willing to bet you could pick out which ones would be doing it.
You think GPA doesn't have a lot to do with things in life? You may want to think again.
Because chivalry discussions always end up in a locked thread, and what does GPA have to do with this thread ?
Again, I don't say it, but I really don't see the issue with it.
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