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I've noticed that too. If you say something critical about women then you must "hate women" or "don't have a women" or "you had bad upbringing" blah, blah, blah. The only difference is I'm not going to bite my tongue or be "careful with my wording".
That isn't true. Most posters here look for a pattern in people's replies. The odd comment here and there about something a particular person did that you didn't like doesn't mean it's gender bashing. But when you see a constant stream of hatefulness, accusations, denigration and negativity, then you realise this is a misogynist or a misandrist. Which is precisely what we are seeing in this thread, pure gender bashing.
There are so many conversations about how chivalry is for men who put women on pedestals on the boards here. Or how “feminism” killed chivalry, so I thought I’d share some perspective.
The topic of chivalry came up with a few friends the other day, after I was recapping a recent online date, who sent mixed signals (off topic for this thread). Anyway, I was impressed that he had crossed over into what I’ll deem as tier 2 chivalry:
Tier 1: the basics
Opening doors
Letting the woman go first (ordering, sitting down)
Making sure she gets home safely
Tier 2: super old-school
Walking on the outside (curb side)
Dropping you off at the front, then parking the car
Helping you with your coat/jacket
**I am sure there are more examples, but these are top of mind.
Anyway, in this audience of liberated women (and perhaps armchair feminists), profiled as educated and financially independent, were all in agreement about chivalry.
Basically, even though we are all well aware we can take care of ourselves, but when men are chivalrous it makes us feel like we are appreciated and worthy of special care. That’s it. It is basically like a warm fuzzy.
It isn’t about paying or equity or anything else, just a simple sign that someone cares about your well being.
What’s your take?
Wow. How far the discussion has strayed from the OP, and how some posters twisted the OP's and others' general opinion of "chivalry"!
I might have been crying (OMG! Emotion!), and I may have struggled physically to pull or push a dolphin back out into the water, but I'd have done it. That's just the kind of "Oh, sh*t that person/critter needs help, throw caution to the wind" kind of idiot I am.
That made me tear up. Hell yea I would be helping as well.
BZZZT, wrong! I said ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, nobody's pregnant, nobody's wearing heels. Why are your ankles more valuable than mine in the age of equality? Why can't I resent my date for not dropping me off at the door? This is why you've failed this argument from the first post. Women expect to be treated as men in the boardroom, but revert to their default position of "weakness" in social situations. Sorry, I believe in true equality, its a shame that.most of the females on this board do not.
I learned while pregnant that it's pregnancy that is in part responsible for men being protective of women. My concern was protecting the baby inside. My husband's concern was protecting the baby by protecting me. It's biological. It's instinct. The boardroom, OTOH, can only be judged via merit.
I've noticed that too. If you say something critical about women then you must "hate women" or "don't have a women" or "you had bad upbringing" blah, blah, blah. The only difference is I'm not going to bite my tongue or be "careful with my wording".
He's talking about "A" woman not women. Although clearly a few of you do not know the difference.
Chivalry is about respect and frankly I like cherishing my woman and I like it when she makes me feel special as well, crucify me.
I agree.
I guess I'm "old school" because there are just certain things a woman with me isn't gonna do, nothing really to do with chivalry, it's just how I roll.
I'm never gonna let a woman pay for the first date, I'd walk them to their door at night, open doors for them, etc etc.
I guess I'm "old school" because there are just certain things a woman with me isn't gonna do, nothing really to do with chivalry, it's just how I roll.
I'm never gonna let a woman pay for the first date, I'd walk them to their door at night, open doors for them, etc etc.
I call that manners.........
This is why you are the best guy out there, Chows.
If you're wearing spiky heals then that may be the best choice. It depends on how much of a delicate flower you are. Not being a delicate flower myself generally, I have never been dropped off unless I was carrying stuff in or except when I was pregnant. When I was pregnant my husband was practically carrying me from the door to my car every morning down our icy path. I did not carry his non-pregnant self.
Well Done to your hubby, darlin'......
My wife & I took Lamaze birthing classes together. I'm the coach. I delivered our babies.
ummmmm, well,...the doc did help a little........
The Lamaze classes were a wonderful experience for us together. They helped me feel like I played a bigger role in the birth of our beloved children.
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I've noticed that too. If you say something critical about women then you must "hate women" or "don't have a women" or "you had bad upbringing" blah, blah, blah. The only difference is I'm not going to bite my tongue or be "careful with my wording".
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