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Old 12-15-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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How so?

How does a person with low self esteem become obnoxious.

From what I remember, people calling others ugly, making fun of women, and having ridiculously high standards are people with high self esteem. IMO, people with high self esteem are more likely to exhibit behavior with negative consequences towards others.

The posters here with lower self esteem who have been knocked down a couple of pegs because of whatever reason are generally less shallow.

If anything a woman prattling on and on about how she isn't so pretty might be annoying at worst.
No disrespect but I just burst out laughing at the emboldened. You simply do not have a clue what the words self esteem mean. You should google it.

And again, no offence but your probably one of the last people on this board that should be giving advice on, or commenting on self esteem. Before you try to help anyone else, you should help yourself first.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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No disrespect but I just burst out laughing at the emboldened. You simply do not have a clue what the words self esteem mean. You should google it.

And again, no offence but your probably one of the last people on this board that should be giving advice on, or commenting on self esteem. Before you try to help anyone else, you should help yourself first.
Self esteem-

1: a confidence and satisfaction in oneself : self-respect

2: self-conceit

I get it yea. People who have low self esteem need to put down others sometimes. Sometimes people with high self esteem put down others.

But other people with low self esteem do not. They know how it is to be put down, so they don't do it themselves.

You have it all figured out, don't you? Because I've said so many nasty things about you as a poster and trash talked you and torn you apart that you feel compelled to ride me?
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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Self esteem-

1: a confidence and satisfaction in oneself : self-respect

2: self-conceit

I get it yea. People who have low self esteem need to put down others sometimes. Sometimes people with high self esteem put down others.

But other people with low self esteem do not. They know how it is to be put down, so they don't do it themselves.

You have it all figured out, don't you? Because I've said so many nasty things about you as a poster and trash talked you and torn you apart that you feel compelled to ride me?
Yes. But what you said in your last post was a completely inaccurate description of esteem.

"People who have low self esteem need to put others down.....", "But other people with low self esteem do not.". That doesn't make any sense and your contradicting yourself. How do you mean other people?

And I'm not trying to "ride you" & I don't have it all figured out, far far from it. But your making comments in a thread about esteem where you just prove you didn't understand what it means by your description, and from your other posts on here I don't think your the best person to give advice on it.
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes. But what you said in your last post was a completely inaccurate description of esteem.

"People who have low self esteem need to put others down.....", "But other people with low self esteem do not.". That doesn't make any sense and your contradicting yourself. How do you mean other people?

And I'm not trying to "ride you" & I don't have it all figured out, far far from it. But your making comments in a thread about esteem where you just prove you didn't understand what it means by your description, and from your other posts on here I don't think your the best person to give advice on it.
Actually dude, I was being serious.

I know I have some problems with self-esteem and there's a lot of reasons for it. But I truly feel it has made me a better person in SOME respects (of course I have many flaws). And I want someone with those same characteristics. I think average women out there are beautiful all the time and one of the reasons is because my self esteem/confidence is on the low side.

Unlike others, I don't think low self-esteem has all bad effects. Humility is a great thing.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:17 AM
 
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On the internet I like to vent about the fact that I am not good enough, due to the fact that I am single. I don't have a family to come back to for the holidays, I am not rich, I am not charismatic, I am not sexy, I am not experienced in bed, I am not a comedian, I will buy my car next year, I have not yet finished my education, I have poor memories (even though my memory is good), I don't have any exciting tales to tell, I have frequent nightmares, my good friends that I know well live elsewhere, I wear hearing aids AND glasses, I suck at reading body language, I am timid around women.

Sure, I am knowledgeable, I am polite, I can have an interesting debate conversation, I like to listen to people, I can make people laugh *sonetimes*, but the fact is, I have not been able to capture and keep the interest of women like the men better than me have. My female friends said they wish their BFs were more like me, yet, I am not their BF.


Despite that, I do my best to keep a grin on my face and keep my frustrations online (one interesting thing is I've only heard advice for seeing a therapist is on CD). Do women really see through all of this? Or am I too inferior? Or do most people here get married early, and I've misses the boat?
Women notice, but they may not care if they like you.

Since you asked, I am curious, do you notice low self-esteem in women?
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:11 AM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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I have the opposite problem, sometimes my self esteem gets too high
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No, we are all blind.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:55 AM
 
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Women notice, but they may not care if they like you.

Since you asked, I am curious, do you notice low self-esteem in women?
Let's just say that I am terrible at reading the subtleties of emotions. I can tell the obvious, but that's about it.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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On the internet I like to vent about the fact that I am not good enough, due to the fact that I am single. I don't have a family to come back to for the holidays, I am not rich, I am not charismatic, I am not sexy, I am not experienced in bed, I am not a comedian, I will buy my car next year, I have not yet finished my education, I have poor memories (even though my memory is good), I don't have any exciting tales to tell, I have frequent nightmares, my good friends that I know well live elsewhere, I wear hearing aids AND glasses, I suck at reading body language, I am timid around women.

Sure, I am knowledgeable, I am polite, I can have an interesting debate conversation, I like to listen to people, I can make people laugh *sonetimes*, but the fact is, I have not been able to capture and keep the interest of women like the men better than me have. My female friends said they wish their BFs were more like me, yet, I am not their BF.


Despite that, I do my best to keep a grin on my face and keep my frustrations online (one interesting thing is I've only heard advice for seeing a therapist is on CD). Do women really see through all of this? Or am I too inferior? Or do most people here get married early, and I've misses the boat?
My gosh, first thing I'd say to you is stop putting yourself down.
You probably have a lot to offer....
I noticed the line in your post that says something about other men who are better than you.
In my experiences, men with excessively high self esteems, inflated egos & all around narcissists
are a dime a dozen.
If I had to choose between a self absorbed egomaniac or a guy with a few flaws (that's working on himself) I'd easily take the second.
Lighten up with criticizing yourself.....honestly life can be hard enough- beating yourself down is pointless.
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: On the corner of Grey Street
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It's simple. If you don't like yourself, then why would or should anyone else like you?
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