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One guy talked about how he could tell how much I enjoyed traveling, but I said nothing in my profile, nor did I have any traveling pictures up.
99% of the messages I got were blasted pro forma messages. It was obvious and a turn off.
That's because women's profiles are laughingly predictable. "Loves to travel" or pics taken during trips are the typical uncreative crap in an inordinate portion of them. It's a pretty wise move for a ctrl-C subject.
Like I said, I don't do as such, but I can't blame any guy who does. The ROI is so utterly low in online dating for men, and so many women's profiles have little or nothing to riff off of. Seeking out those who do, who also have commonality with me and crafting a custom message hasn't gotten me jack for dates, so what can I say?
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This.
Ninety percent of all guys (i.e. not me) will just blast boilerplate messages out to hundreds of women's profiles because the reply rates on online dating are so abysmally low. Most of them probably didn't read a word of the profile.
If you use this approach you will get low replies. I get replies at about an 80% clip.
There is nothing at all surprising in the results. Many men likely stopped reading after seeing her pic and her answer "looking for casual sex."
You may not understand the hopelessness and absurdity of your faith in baseball, but you do understand the basic drives of men. The profile was only stripped of virtue. Nature knows all too well that virtue comes and goes, and must keep a pool of those just looking for booty, the last line of procreative defence.
That's because women's profiles are laughingly predictable. "Loves to travel" or pics taken during trips are the typical uncreative crap in an inordinate portion of them. It's a pretty wise move for a ctrl-C subject.
I was thinking the exact same thing. An excellent addition to a spam message for those who felt so inclined.
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If you use this approach you will get low replies. I get replies at about an 80% clip.
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I get maybe 3%.
I've tried both spam and personalized messages, and the difference in success between them was negligible. I'd put it at around maybe 40% when I wrote someone individually, and maybe 33% when I spammed. And if getting responses were one's intent, they'd have a LOT more success with spamming. That's just math for you:
Regarding the high quality/low quality thing I had a high quality profile on the free sites and while I got some high quality men (the ones I met were all high quality)by far the responses were low quality. On the paid sites the majority were high quality. I think it's just because they are free sites.
What else is new? Do you think a man could get away with this?
You can't really fault us for having more common sense.
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That's because women's profiles are laughingly predictable. "Loves to travel" or pics taken during trips are the typical uncreative crap in an inordinate portion of them. It's a pretty wise move for a ctrl-C subject.
Like I said, I don't do as such, but I can't blame any guy who does. The ROI is so utterly low in online dating for men, and so many women's profiles have little or nothing to riff off of. Seeking out those who do, who also have commonality with me and crafting a custom message hasn't gotten me jack for dates, so what can I say?
You may not understand the hopelessness and absurdity of your faith in baseball, but you do understand the basic drives of men. The profile was only stripped of virtue. Nature knows all too well that virtue comes and goes, and must keep a pool of those just looking for booty, the last line of procreative defence.
True... I have inexplicable faith in many things, baseball and business. I can be a dreamer. But I have always had a pretty good handle on the drives and motivations of men. But is it really that hard to figure out? Much of it boils down to sexual prowess and power and feeling important.
One may market perceived power and control to them. It is all in the sales technique, though little selling is necessary on a dating profile. A provocative pic is often all that is needed there - visual media at its best. Signing on a dotted line requires a little more finesse. There is a reason I excel in a male-dominated industry. I find men easier to understand than women. I find the motivations of modern men easier to understand than the works of dead economic philosophers.
I've tried both spam and personalized messages, and the difference in success between them was negligible. I'd put it at around maybe 40% when I wrote someone individually, and maybe 33% when I spammed. And if getting responses were one's intent, they'd have a LOT more success with spamming. That's just math for you:
33% of 100 > 40% of 5.
So, through the spamming method, that would put my 3% return down into negative numbers then, wouldn't it? LOL!
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