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Old 03-21-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: CA
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This is sort of a reverse take on the oft-discussed premise that "Women like jerks, not nice guys".

Do you think there is any truth here?

Men seem to complain about women in relationships being bossy & emasculating. They may wonder where all the kind, sweet-natured women are. They blame feminism. They say nowadays, women try to act like men (whatever that means).

But are they choosing these naggy/witchy types of women?
Are they subconsciously drawn to them, initially at least?

Meanwhile, more patient, sweet women are not grabbing their attention & are being overlooked in favor of the more aggressive, confident woman who perhaps boosts their egos while dating, but then harps on them when in a relationship. Or something else?

Of course, in the original premise, we discover Nice Guys aren't so nice. We learn there is a false dichotomy.
So what could be going on with the "Sweet Woman" vs. "Witchy Woman" in terms of what men say they want & who they actually date/marry?

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Disclaimer: I'm not stating this as a truth, nor is this necessarily my belief/stance. Just an idea to discuss.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:39 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Meanwhile, more patient, sweet women are not grabbing their attention & are being overlooked
This much is definitely true, to at least some extent.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:39 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Do you think there is any truth here?
But are they choosing these naggy/witchy types of women?
Are they subconsciously drawn to them, initially at least?
No. I like nice women.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:59 PM
 
Location: NY
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Everyone (men and women) seems to want a Type A who is nice to them but who steps on everyone else. Its part of the culture which teaches us that the streetsmart are more "admirable" than the meek who inevitably wind up being deceived, conned, lied to, stepped on. Who do you rely on when you get into trouble? The girl or the guy who can speak up and defend you as they defend themselves and not come off as criminal or crazy.

You love "your own personal Type A" as she or he brings home the bacon, climbs the ladder, steps over the bodies..........

UNTIL the first fight which is when she or he steps on YOU.

Then you start packing. You call the divorce lawyer. You grab the kids and run out of there.

True?
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:05 AM
 
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Everyone (men and women) seems to want a Type A who is nice to them but who steps on everyone else. Its part of the culture which teaches us that the streetsmart are more "admirable" than the meek who inevitably wind up being deceived, conned, lied to, stepped on. Who do you rely on when you get into trouble? The girl or the guy who can speak up and defend you as they defend themselves and not come off as criminal or crazy.

You love "your own personal Type A" as she or he brings home the bacon, climbs the ladder, steps over the bodies..........

UNTIL the first fight which is when she or he steps on YOU.

Then you start packing. You call the divorce lawyer. You grab the kids and run out of there.

True?
No.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:09 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Everyone (men and women) seems to want a Type A who is nice to them but who steps on everyone else. Its part of the culture which teaches us that the streetsmart are more "admirable" than the meek who inevitably wind up being deceived, conned, lied to, stepped on. Who do you rely on when you get into trouble? The girl or the guy who can speak up and defend you as they defend themselves and not come off as criminal or crazy.

You love "your own personal Type A" as she or he brings home the bacon, climbs the ladder, steps over the bodies..........

UNTIL the first fight which is when she or he steps on YOU.

Then you start packing. You call the divorce lawyer. You grab the kids and run out of there.

True?
No. I like nice people.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:11 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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This much is definitely true, to at least some extent.
Agreed, at least to some extent.

Personally, a woman's naggy, witchy ways might turn me on, but I myself would never date, have sex with, and/or marry such a woman.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:17 AM
 
Location: CA
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^ Why would it turn you on?
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:19 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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^Why would it turn you on?
I don't know--I guess that it just does. It might be a bit hard for me to explain this, at least right now.

Also, this might be similar to asking me why women turn me on but men don't.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:24 AM
 
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I think men like women that women consider bitchy. Women are generally raised to be non-confrontational, so when we set boundaries and stand up for ourselves, we feel guilty about it, like we're being harridans. The thing to remember is that what we see as bitchy, men tend to see as just being clear and direct.

Furthermore, quite a few men deliberately push boundaries to see what they can get away with and whether we think highly enough of ourselves to draw a line somewhere. Pretty much every man who has ever gotten serious about me has said the same thing: "I like you because you don't put up with any crap, including mine."
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