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Your best hope is to do what some men do and pretend to want to marry the woman and have children (sweet talk and future planning), yet keep stalling the actual marriage with a myriad of excuses, meanwhile keep having sex with her and she'll get pregnant. Stall some more until the baby is born, maybe even move her and baby in, but never marry her. Eventually she'll leave you but you'll still be a father.
The women I know who don't want marriage also don't want children. Most single moms I know who had children out of wedlock also wanted the guy to marry them, but he wouldn't.
You could always pay a surrogate. Some men who don't want marriage are doing that these days, but you'd have to raise the child alone. Or you could team up with a lesbian who wants a child and sire the child. Some of them want the father to be involved in their life and work out an agreement.
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Originally Posted by Dewdrop93
I'm still curious as to what "concept" you don't like and what you think marriage is.
I just like to hear people say it. Because if you are really vowing to raise a family with someone and spend your life with them - making the commitment of marriage shouldn't be a big deal - unless you want to have one foot out the door "just in case." In which case, I would be upfront with the person and let them know that you don't trust them enough to marry them but you still want them to have your children.
I just like to hear people say it. Because if you are really vowing to raise a family with someone and spend your life with them - making the commitment of marriage shouldn't be a big deal - unless you want to have one foot out the door "just in case." In which case, I would be upfront with the person and let them know that you don't trust them enough to marry them but you still want them to have your children.
Your best hope is to do what some men do and pretend to want to marry the woman and have children (sweet talk and future planning), yet keep stalling the actual marriage with a myriad of excuses, meanwhile keep having sex with her and she'll get pregnant. Stall some more until the baby is born, maybe even move her and baby in, but never marry her. Eventually she'll leave you but you'll still be a father.
The women I know who don't want marriage also don't want children. Most single moms I know who had children out of wedlock also wanted the guy to marry them, but he wouldn't.
I wouldn't do that to a woman, it's not fair. I wouldn't string her along and eventually get her pregnant all with the idea of never marrying her after I told her I would.
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Originally Posted by srjth
You could always pay a surrogate. Some men who don't want marriage are doing that these days, but you'd have to raise the child alone. Or you could team up with a lesbian who wants a child and sire the child. Some of them want the father to be involved in their life and work out an agreement.
Divorce is what they're afraid of.
That whole lesbian mother/agreement is just not for me.
Yes, divorce.
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Originally Posted by Dewdrop93
I just like to hear people say it. Because if you are really vowing to raise a family with someone and spend your life with them - making the commitment of marriage shouldn't be a big deal - unless you want to have one foot out the door "just in case." In which case, I would be upfront with the person and let them know that you don't trust them enough to marry them but you still want them to have your children.
I'm not so sure I believe in monogamous relationships, even once married.
I wouldn't do that to a woman, it's not fair. I wouldn't string her along and eventually get her pregnant all with the idea of never marrying her after I told her I would.
That whole lesbian mother/agreement is just not for me.
Yes, divorce.
I'm not so sure I believe in monogamous relationships, even once married.
Well, I'm noticing more women who don't want to marry because they are afraid of divorce too, so maybe you'll find one who feels the same way (still wants kids). She will likely be mid-to-late 30's though.
I'm not so sure I believe in monogamous relationships, even once married.
Well, now you are talking about a completely different thing. Are you planning on having an open relationship with the mother of your children or are you talking about just cheating on her?
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