This man sent his date an invoice after she ghosted him (American, sex)
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Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD
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EXACTLY!!! And this is not cheap for women. It costs money! And you don't know what those women did because as a man you don't know the effort and cost that goes into to even basic female maintenance because you are not a woman. All a man has to do is shave and get a haircut.
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Nah, the woman I'm most into now doesn't wear make up (at all, not even lip gloss or basic foundation), do pedis/manis, and I see her in regular work clothes (which in her line are, ah, frumpty) and she is hot, cause she is hot, and chemistry). But, I dont find dressing up types hot.
No what's silly is using that an excuse to put the burden of paying on the guy.
It is an equal burden based on basic biology. The way a woman dresses or wearing certain colors increases male attractiveness.
Men want beauty, access to a woman's body, and support from women. Women want men who can provide for them and their offspring in exchange for that access and support. That is what marriage and relationships have always been. By paying for things, a man is showing that he is willing to be a provider, a woman making herself appealing to a man's senses is her being the woman he wants to have access to. It's basic. A man who is cheap and complains about paying for dates is someone who is selfish and won't be a good provider if we want to look at the bigger picture.
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD
It is an equal burden based on basic biology. The way a woman dresses or wearing certain colors increases male attractiveness.
Men want beauty, access to a woman's body, and support from women. Women want men who can provide for them and their offspring in exchange for that access and support. That is what marriage and relationships have always been. By paying for things, a man is showing that he is willing to be a provider, a woman making herself appealing to a man's senses is her being the woman he wants to have access to. It's basic. A man who is cheap and complains about paying for dates is someone who is selfish and won't be a good provider if we want to look at the bigger picture.
That is so not true. I have no problem providing, the point of dating is to see if I WANT to provide anything to that particular woman. If I'm not inclined to, why provide her with even a meal?
It is an equal burden based on basic biology. The way a woman dresses or wearing certain colors increases male attractiveness.
Men want beauty, access to a woman's body, and support from women. Women want men who can provide for them and their offspring in exchange for that access and support. That is what marriage and relationships have always been. By paying for things, a man is showing that he is willing to be a provider, a woman making herself appealing to a man's senses is her being the woman he wants to have access to. It's basic. A man who is cheap and complains about paying for dates is someone who is selfish and won't be a good provider if we want to look at the bigger picture.
This view of dating sounds a bit...transactional...for my taste. Yuck.
It is an equal burden based on basic biology. The way a woman dresses or wearing certain colors increases male attractiveness.
Men want beauty, access to a woman's body, and support from women. Women want men who can provide for them and their offspring in exchange for that access and support. That is what marriage and relationships have always been. By paying for things, a man is showing that he is willing to be a provider, a woman making herself appealing to a man's senses is her being the woman he wants to have access to. It's basic. A man who is cheap and complains about paying for dates is someone who is selfish and won't be a good provider if we want to look at the bigger picture.
It is an equal burden based on basic biology. The way a woman dresses or wearing certain colors increases male attractiveness.
Men want beauty, access to a woman's body, and support from women. Women want men who can provide for them and their offspring in exchange for that access and support. That is what marriage and relationships have always been. By paying for things, a man is showing that he is willing to be a provider, a woman making herself appealing to a man's senses is her being the woman he wants to have access to. It's basic. A man who is cheap and complains about paying for dates is someone who is selfish and won't be a good provider if we want to look at the bigger picture.
Please define cheap. I'd like to have a good laugh.
See? This is why you don't waste money on the first date. Find a free activity to find out if she's even worth your time. Don't just think you're obligated to woo someone. Never put in more effort than you're receiving unless you somehow like one-sided relationships.
I just don’t see this, maybe it’s a generational thing, maybe it’s because I live 3000 miles from you guys. and we take a different approach.
I have to choose my words carefully, I’ve already had a shot across my bows for speaking my mind a tad strongly, but I just can’t imagine looking for a free activity for a date, just to see if she’s “worth my time.”
I would think that the fact that I’d asked a woman out, must mean that I think she’s more than “worth my time.”
On re-thinking this, you all may be concentrating on online dating, I never, ever, did that, all the women I dated I met at parties, weddings, bars etc., or sometimes they were women that had hailed my taxi, and initiated a friendly conversation, then made it obvious that they wouldn’t be annoyed if I suggested coffee sometime, but would cheerfully just say yes or no.
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Originally Posted by arctic_gardener
I still don't get why it's mostly guys who pay for dates. I would never pay for someone on the first date, or expect someone to pay for me. You pay for your meal, I pay for mine. I pay for yours when I get to know you. And screw that kissing/sex on the first/second date. I don't kiss strangers! In my case I waited until the 7th date to get physical with who I am with.
My initial thought here, was that we perhaps live in different worlds,
but on second thought, it may be different galaxies.
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Originally Posted by 49ersfan27
I've found that most people will call you cheap when you don't want to spend YOUR money on them.
Once again I find myself lost, maybe I did it all wrong when I was in the dating game, but if I felt attracted to a woman, and invited her out on a date, the way that I saw it, I’d pick up the check, that’s the way that it worked in my world.
If I didn’t want to spend MY money when I was out with a woman, but expected her to spend hers, I WOULD be cheap IMO, and I’d expect to be seen that way.
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