Wow, being a jerk REALLY DOES get women interested! (movies, marry, loyalty)
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Yeah, I didn't know this was some special "method" that you have to vigorously study from a book and then employ like a war strategy, I've done this sort of thing all my life with guys, and have generally found them to be receptive...
Yep...all he had to do was just get up the guts to TALK...GOD knows he was told that endless times here. Apparently he wanted someone to script him a success story. As if.
You're comparing looking well groomed/attractive when you go out, to being manipulative?
Huge difference between putting on mascara I would guess to look like you're more awake by filling in part of the darker recesses of your eyes to putting on a wig, face-mask, platform shoes and having your body sucked of 200lbs of excess fat before you step outside.
I just saying, when a woman does those things like putting on makeup and doing their hair or wearing a push-up bra or revealing clothes, they are, as you said "put[ting] them or [themselves] in a position to be seen as something else."
A woman at 9 PM is not the same woman at 9 AM.
Girls/women's magazines are loaded with tonnes of articles on how to attract men or to get what they want out of a relationship, even if it's not necessarily beneficial to the man.
I just saying, when a woman does those things like putting on makeup and doing their hair or wearing a push-up bra or revealing clothes, they are, as you said "put[ting] them or [themselves] in a position to be [b]seen/b] as something else."
Girls/women's magazines are loaded with tonnes of articles on how to attract men or to get what they want out of a relationship, even if it's not necessarily beneficial to the man.
Why is it wrong for a man to learn the same?
Duh. Have you ever picked up a MEN'S magazine?? Are you for freakin' real? Cuz I just have a hard time believing that anyone is this stupid.
Why can't people just be themselves? What is there to gain, by being something like a facade?
How can one get what they want by being the very thing they don't want?
Yep...all he had to do was just get up the guts to TALK...GOD knows he was told that endless times here. Apparently he wanted someone to script him a success story. As if.
Once again, I was never told I had to talk to a girl Over the Shoulder (body facing 45 degrees away from her with my face turned towards her) or that I should use False Time Constraints, or use Opinion Openers, or Neg (tease) the girl, or win the trust of her friends before I even talk to the one I'm interested. I was never told how to effectively and gracefully Demonstrate Higher Value (convey your qualities WITHOUT bragging).
I was told to waste money on dance classes and drinks.
Once again, I was never told I had to talk to a girl Over the Shoulder (body facing 45 degrees away from her with my face turned towards her) or that I should use False Time Constraints, or use Opinion Openers, or Neg (tease) the girl, or win the trust of her friends before I even talk to the one I'm interested. I was never told how to effectively and gracefully Demonstrate Higher Value (convey your qualities WITHOUT bragging).
I was told to waste money on dance classes and drinks.
I am a woman, and I wouldn't go to dance classes!
One of my friends, who is married, went to a dance class when single, and she said they had to partner up women with women, because there weren't enough men there!
I just saying, when a woman does those things like putting on makeup and doing their hair or wearing a push-up bra or revealing clothes, they are, as you said "put[ting] them or [themselves] in a position to be seen as something else."
A woman at 9 PM is not the same woman at 9 AM.
Girls/women's magazines are loaded with tonnes of articles on how to attract men or to get what they want out of a relationship, even if it's not necessarily beneficial to the man.
Why is it wrong for a man to learn the same?
Can't say I've read any girl's/women's mags.
You're comparing true manipulation tactics on psychology to giving completely physical characteristics a touch-up to physically appear better.
Men do this as well. Think I look the same as I do now layin' mah chubby butt on my couch as I do once I've showered, shaved, groomed and dressed myself?
Gleaning why something is successful, recognizing aspects of it, is a far cry from using tactics to get someone in the sack, then eventually them finding out what you're saying/doing isn't actually you.
I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm not saying it doesn't have some weird merit. I am saying I find it sad that it would work, for them and you. You might get a more normal sex life from it, but I doubt the women that are taken in will be better off for it, or you're warped sense of how you then identify with them due to it working.
Once again, I was never told I had to talk to a girl Over the Shoulder (body facing 45 degrees away from her with my face turned towards her) or that I should use False Time Constraints, or use Opinion Openers, or Neg (tease) the girl, or win the trust of her friends before I even talk to the one I'm interested. I was never told how to effectively and gracefully Demonstrate Higher Value (convey your qualities WITHOUT bragging).
I was told to waste money on dance classes and drinks.
What is really sad here is how ridiculous you sound.
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As if. 
