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Old 05-04-2011, 05:56 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I am not sure that girls (or boys) are that much more sexual than they were in the past. Maybe, maybe not.

But if they are, I am going to blame it on media and internet. Back when I was a teenager, information on sex was difficult to come across. Now, any kid can hit internet porn sites, sex advice columns, dating sites, sites like this, etc. They see discussions about how many partners people have had, video of sex acts and positions, discussions of sexual technique, and the list goes on.

The perception from a teenage point of view is that everybody has sex all the time, in a variety of ways, with a variety of people. Sure, when I was a kid I suspected that, but I did not KNOW that. All I had to work with were rumors.

I remember hearing about oral sex, threesomes and the like, and initially being shocked, then wondering if this stuff was just a story, or if people actually did these things. No need to wonder now, within minutes any kid can confirm these acts. Is it any wonder that they then mimic them?

It is simply a different, more sexually explicit environment than back in the day. Teenage interest in sex is no different, they are still bundles of raging hormones. But now curiosity can be instantly sated, and this brings up the potential challenge of doing it yourself.

Porn is definitely not just something virginal 30 year old men who live with their mother are into anymore (that was always a stereotype anyway). We've always had the same hormones, back in the day teenage girls and boys channeled it into more 'innocent' things like having a crush on their pop idol, but I'm sure they did 'naughty things' in the privacy of their bedrooms too.

The fact that as you say it's so available means it's easy for teens to fulfil their desires.

 
Old 05-04-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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As Chris Rock once said, "Dad's, keep your daughters off the pole!" He meant pole as in... stripper pole. Some people underestimate the influence dad's have on daughter's lives, which is too bad because girls suffer for it.
Careful. The unwed single mom multiple kid having by different dad CD members here will come on and tell you that THEY turned out just fine without growing up with a father figure. They'll say "I turned out fine and Im a successful independent woman". LOL LOL LOL
 
Old 05-04-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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Not to mention the fact that girls are dressing more and more 'slutty' and in risque styles at younger ages. I swear I see a lot of pre-teens who wear ultra-revealing outfits and, in turn, end up looking like they're in their 20s.
I'll agree with you here to a point. The high school girls here dont dress "slutty" but they definitely dress in a way that makes them look a LOT older than 16-18 years old. I think its moreso the ones who attend school in the more well-to-do areas though. My 15 year old goes to school in what he says most kids call the "Hot Chick School". I dont know if its so much the way they dress or the way the girls look (hair, bodies, etc.) or the fact that they are in a very upper-middle class area with lots of entertainment exec type parents so they definitely dress differently than other schools.

I asked him if there are any fat kids or ugly kids that attend his school and he said "Very few".
 
Old 05-04-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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Not to mention the fact that girls are dressing more and more 'slutty' and in risque styles at younger ages. I swear I see a lot of pre-teens who wear ultra-revealing outfits and, in turn, end up looking like they're in their 20s.
I remember being in middle school, since it wasn't overly long ago for me in the grand scheme of things. The thing about middle schoolers is they realize they're not little kids anymore so they think they're grown up. In elementary school, people think the big kids go to the middle school. So they feel cool and grown up when they go to middle school. But the reality is they're in the in-between stage. They're not little kids anymore, but they're not as grown up as they think they are.

I'm not saying what they do is right or wrong, I'm just saying why they do it. I can relate since I remember being that age and feeling so cool and grown up.

That's why they dress the way they do.

There is a saying: "Everyone in middle school thinks they're 10 years older than they really are"
 
Old 05-04-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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Do you expect teenage girls to be any other way? Hormones pay no heed to the religious affiliation of their host.
You might be onto something. That would explain the hypocritical religious church-going teens.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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From what my sister tells me, they go into training starting about age 9.

Sis was happy that my niece wasn't part of that clique.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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I think another problem is that many girls these days are maturing earlier than usual. I've heard of girls hitting pruberty as early as 7 or 8 years old. Many young teen girls these days have full bodies that they've learned can get them attention if they show off. The only thing parents can do is teach them that they're body is not a tool to get what you want and can in fact make life more difficult if they're not careful.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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Poor role models. Miley Cyrus on a stripper pole?? Or smoking a bong?

Compare that to....Annette Funicello, Barbara Eden on I Dream of Jeannie, etc. A world of difference. Trash media does not go without consequences. The lifestyle on Jerry Springer is almost mainstream.

Somehow, I think the media almost wants to create boredom and frustration among teens. There's almost no way out but to dress provocatively.
 
Old 05-10-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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Spoken like a true male. I'm not talking about having sex....I'm talking about having sex at the drop of a hat. By the way, this does not mean she loves sex. It can be she doesn't get any attention from her father or no approval or doesn't feel loved and this is her way of feeling like she is special. Counseling would be my first step for a girl like this. Guys....always have been and will be horn dogs but they do not get the rep that can kill your life at high school being known as the "****" as you so delicately put it. Believe me, girls were like that when you were in high school buddy, they just weren't into you. Sorry.
(bolded portions above)

Sometimes true, but definitely not always...I'm in my early 30's, male, and am and have been 100% celibate (have not even experienced a French kiss, thus far). By choice, for religious and other reasons. I was offered physical intimacy before, but politely and respectfully declined the multiple invitations.

(Spoken as one male, who truly believes that full physical intimacy should be reserved for relations between a husband and wife, in the context of a loving married relationship, and for the purpose of family procreation.)
 
Old 05-10-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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People only put that kind of value judgment on themselves because society tells them that they're supposed to. When you break it down, there's no real reason teen girls shouldn't have sex if they're being careful.

Back in the day, being abstinent had a reason. It's because we didn't have the pill. Girls couldn't protect themselves. Keeping girls from having sex protected them from having babies during a time before DNA testing when there was no way to prove the paternity. That means guys could do it with anyone and not be held responsible and girls were stuck holding the bag. That's when all these other reasons were built up around girls not having pre-marital sex, to prop up the real reason which was getting stuck with a baby on your own.

Now that men can held responsible and women have more choices, all those other reasons (i.e. giving yourself away freely) don't really hold water except that society tells you that your sexuality has a value. If you're a girl and have a lot of sex, then you have a low value while the inverse is true for a guy. But that's just society BS. It's not true. If you love yourself no matter what, if you make smart decisions and take good care of yourself, you won't and shouldn't have low self-esteem just because you have a lot of sex with different partners.
Again, not always true (about guys)...as a guy who is strongly against pre-marital relations for both males and females, I cannot emphasize enough how deeply ashamed of myself I would be, if I just "gave it away", or engaged in intercourse before being married. For me, having pre-marital relations is anathema, and a potential mortal sin (for me; I'm not judging others here who don't believe the same).
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