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Originally Posted by Chowhound
I had no game either.
I think thats what the kids say.
Let me put it this way--things haven't changed that much, teen-age girls are still teen-age girls--game or no game, if someone else wanted you, you were/are fair game. The guys with no game sometimes got creative and tricked the marshmallow brains into wanting them. You have to be as conniving as a teen-age girl to get one sometimes. This is, of course, advice for only other teen-agers.
Let me put it this way--things haven't changed that much, teen-age girls are still teen-age girls--game or no game, if someone else wanted you, you were/are fair game. The guys with no game sometimes got creative and tricked the marshmallow brains into wanting them. You have to be as conniving as a teen-age girl to get one sometimes. This is, of course, advice for only other teen-agers.
Tell me why I should care as long as they're not making babies or catching/spreading STDs. I'm up for any reasonable argument that's not religiously based.
There are quite a difference between being easy and being friendly - teenagers these day are more mature and friendly and there's nothing wrong with that...what is wrong is when a boy or a guy take advantage of a friendly girl
Let me put it this way--things haven't changed that much, teen-age girls are still teen-age girls--game or no game, if someone else wanted you, you were/are fair game.
So true.. looking back, sex in high school was kind of like a club. Someone "cool" (a girl) had to invite you, but once you were in, you were pretty much in. A friend of mine in his later teens explained it to me like this back in the day: Go for girls who travel in packs and remember that once you sleep with one, they will all want to sleep with you.
This seems pretty true. At this age, I think girls are just as much (or more) into impressing other girls as they are boys. They want to convince other girls, as well as themselves, that they are desirable .. what better way to do that than get with a guy who has gotten with your friend, whom you think is hotter than you. Instant self worth.
Ok, so what do I have to do again to protect my daughter (who is nine) from sleeping with random douches in high school?
In Europe they're much more lax about sex. They're not as tense when talking about sex or having sex with each other. They show breasts on public TV. Sex is considered "natural" and commonplace and there's not an emphasis on having sex only with the person you marry. I think that's the natural progression for most post-industrial societies. But as a society, America is relatively young. I think it's something we'll eventually grow into, and the "oversexuality" we're seeing now may just be us already heading in that direction.
I think you are misinformed about Europe! I live here and I grew up here. I never seen a TV show where they showed breasts. In highscool (few years ago) most of the girls didn't had sex until 11-12th grade (until they were 18-19). Now that's probably because I was in a good school, but things were not that different in other schools.
If you're changing boyfriends like your socks than you're considered a bi#ch and you won't get too much respect from anybody here.
The first time I've seen teens talking about sex was on MTV. Actually MTV was like a porn channel for me when I was a child.
I really don't know about what Europe are you talking. If Europe for you is UK than I don't know how's life there (judging by the stats they are as bad as US) but if Europe is any other central/southern European country then you are really misinformed.
Europe is way more conservative than the Americans think. Actually some of the American conservatives will be considered here liberals.
Originally Posted by HurricaneDC I hear about how they're so easy these days but none of the girls at my school were easy at all. It's bull****.
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Originally Posted by Chowhound
I don't remember this "easy" girls when I was going to High School.
I couldn't have gotten laid if I had a fist full of 50s in a wh#re house.
This is the way that it is for most guys. Women try to blame all HS boys for this problem with their daughters but it is really just a small percentage that the girls go for. They are usually older and have "things".
The real "moral hazard" for young men is the urge to chuck it all and try to buy their way into this lifestyle. As a high school student, I worked a lot and saved probably 80% of what I made - a fact that I was embarrassed to tell the other students . Upon graduation, I could have bought a used car, a motorcycle or dirt bike and a skidoo - all popular with my peers - and started living the high life. I went to college instead and soon the money was gone. However, this delayed the time that I would need to be in debt and by working a lot, this day never come. I returned for a visit, nearly a decade later and the lifestyle of these guys hadn't changed. Some had a trade but only something that was easy to get.
Recently, I was walking to the bus after work and 4 young guys (~22) on hot new motorcycles pulled up. Young girls were on the back of 3 and one didn't have a helmet. She looked about 15 or 16. Things haven't changed that much but these days. They either need rich parents (making him automatically attractive) or as it was here until recently here, the economy needs to be good.
The other young guys, work hard and take their slim chances later with a position in the queue for what's left. The fact is, girls don't date potential. They want it all now and very few young men have it all. Blame this for the situation in school. The 80+% of guys who are cut out of this game are sick of having it blamed on them.
So true.. looking back, sex in high school was kind of like a club. Someone "cool" (a girl) had to invite you, but once you were in, you were pretty much in. A friend of mine in his later teens explained it to me like this back in the day: Go for girls who travel in packs and remember that once you sleep with one, they will all want to sleep with you.
This seems pretty true. At this age, I think girls are just as much (or more) into impressing other girls as they are boys. They want to convince other girls, as well as themselves, that they are desirable .. what better way to do that than get with a guy who has gotten with your friend, whom you think is hotter than you. Instant self worth.
Ok, so what do I have to do again to protect my daughter (who is nine) from sleeping with random douches in high school?
1. Tell her that when she decides to have sex, it must be HER decision and not because some boy pressured her into it or because she wants to keep up with her peers in that regard.
2. Make sure she knows that teenage boys do not fall madly in love but will say they are in love, or actually will say anything that works, to get a girl to have sex with them. And that girls who fall for this are idiots.
This won't guarantee that your daughter won't sleep with random douches anyway, but it might empower her a bit to know that she to be the one in control of her body and sexual decisions.
This is more or less what I told my daughter, and it worked out well. She had the same boyfriend all through high school, and when she did decide to have sex, it was her decision. Better yet, he's a good kid with a future and not a random douche.
This may sound like a silly question, but I am going to risk it...if high school girls are so "easy" these days, who the heck are they being "easy" with? Does the "easy" girl's partner get termed as easy or is it reserved exclusively for the girl? Just wondering since I had always heard it takes two to tango, if you know what I mean!
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