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Old 03-15-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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Compare how the Japanese are treating their neighbors during this disaster. Sharing very scarce food and water, even offering some to reporters covering the disaster. No riots, looting, etc. etc.

Look back at how the Citizens of New Orleans reacted toward their neighbors just 6 years ago. Shooting, robbing, rioting, looting, raping, you know acting like followers of a murderous god.

The most christian nation (proclaimed by many christians) shows the least humanity. Based on results, christianity fails miserably.

Oh lord, save me from your followers.

(Let the excuses begin, but I don't judge on rhetoric, but only on results, and christianity was a phenomenal failure in a christian society)
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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While I agree with you about the way people are acting, I think there are more aspects to it than simply religion or lack thereof.

The Japanese are a society built around polite customs and this is serving them well in this crisis. The social lubricant of Japanese society is vastly different from the American.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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Compare how the Japanese are treating their neighbors during this disaster. Sharing very scarce food and water, even offering some to reporters covering the disaster. No riots, looting, etc. etc.

Look back at how the Citizens of New Orleans reacted toward their neighbors just 6 years ago. Shooting, robbing, rioting, looting, raping, you know acting like followers of a murderous god.

The most christian nation (proclaimed by many christians) shows the least humanity. Based on results, christianity fails miserably.

Oh lord, save me from your followers.

(Let the excuses begin, but I don't judge on rhetoric, but only on results, and christianity was a phenomenal failure in a christian society)
I believe I have arrived at the most ridiculous thread I have read and I have read some doozies but this is it, I hope this is not to rhetorical for you.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:25 PM
 
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Compare how the Japanese are treating their neighbors during this disaster. Sharing very scarce food and water, even offering some to reporters covering the disaster. No riots, looting, etc. etc.

Look back at how the Citizens of New Orleans reacted toward their neighbors just 6 years ago. Shooting, robbing, rioting, looting, raping, you know acting like followers of a murderous god.

The most christian nation (proclaimed by many christians) shows the least humanity. Based on results, christianity fails miserably.

Oh lord, save me from your followers.

(Let the excuses begin, but I don't judge on rhetoric, but only on results, and christianity was a phenomenal failure in a christian society)

Look at their source of information, a book filled with murder and violence. The Japanese couldn't be any farther away from that.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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Compare how the Japanese are treating their neighbors during this disaster. Sharing very scarce food and water, even offering some to reporters covering the disaster. No riots, looting, etc. etc.

Look back at how the Citizens of New Orleans reacted toward their neighbors just 6 years ago. Shooting, robbing, rioting, looting, raping, you know acting like followers of a murderous god.

The most christian nation (proclaimed by many christians) shows the least humanity. Based on results, christianity fails miserably.

Oh lord, save me from your followers.

(Let the excuses begin, but I don't judge on rhetoric, but only on results, and christianity was a phenomenal failure in a christian society)
I don't think that has anything to do whatsoever with religion.

Religion is just a part of culture, not the whole tamale. Amercians are independant, self-serving, whiny, generally bad at planning ahead and suffer from entitlement issues, which does not help in a disaster situation.

Japanese folks on the other hand are community/group oriented, proud of their heritage, willing to organize and follow directions without question and have been planning for this eventuality for A LONG time. That helps A LOT when SHTF.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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"Humanity is a NON-Christian society.........."

Absolutely!
Just from casual observation one can see that the non-christian societies are structured much differently.
Some of the most greedy, selfish, intolerant, bigoted people are those who claim to be christians.
Not only in behavior after natural disasters, but in everyday life. In the US it's the christians that are adamantly against low income people from receiving healthcare. The same ones are also those who cheer for war and bombing civilians. It's the christians that are the driving force behind various phobias against other religions, gays, races, ethnic groups. It sure seems that christians are anti-social, some just outright religious psychopaths.

How can anyone be proud to be a christian?
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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I believe I have arrived at the most ridiculous thread I have read and I have read some doozies but this is it, I hope this is not to rhetorical for you.
Well that is your opinion, but it does not explain the vast difference between how people reacted in NO to a disaster and in Japan, where they have a exponentially greater disaster.

Why you attack it as being ridiculous, as you don't have any way to dispute the facts of vastly different behavior, of course with the supposed christian nation look like uncivilized barbarians.
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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I don't think that has anything to do whatsoever with religion.

Religion is just a part of culture, not the whole tamale. Amercians are independant, self-serving, whiny, generally bad at planning ahead and suffer from entitlement issues, which does not help in a disaster situation.

Japanese folks on the other hand are community/group oriented, proud of their heritage, willing to organize and follow directions without question and have been planning for this eventuality for A LONG time. That helps A LOT when SHTF.
But christians blow constantly about how wonderful and peaceful their religion is, that it is the solution, and that if only everyone would submit to the nonsense we would live an a utopia of a society.

The reality is, of all developed countries, we are the most uncivil.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:52 PM
 
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But christians blow constantly about how wonderful and peaceful their religion is, that it is the solution, and that if only everyone would submit to the nonsense we would live an a utopia of a society.

The reality is, of all developed countries, we are the most uncivil.
Wow... you're saying we're more uncivil than Israel or United Arab Emirates?

I have to disagree with you on that statement.

Being a blow hard isn't just a thing Christians do... evidence of that is on this forum everyday. Plenty of atheists and agnostics feel that the world would be better if religion disappeared. They may be the minority in the US, but they're still blow hards.

I'm agnostic, don't get me wrong, but I don't really think how New Orleans dealt with Katrina had anything to do with religion just like I don't think how Japan is dealing now has to do with religion.

I think Chango is right, it's more that Americans don't prepare and that we generally have crappy attitudes no matter what our religious beliefs are.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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Wow... you're saying we're more uncivil than Israel or United Arab Emirates?
Based on how the average citizen treats average citizen, absolutely. Of course Israel, Northern Ireland have some really uncivil moments, but what is the driving force behind those? Oh yea, belief in gods

We are also the last industrialized nation to employ the death penalty. Percentage wise we have the greatest percentage of our citizens imprisoned, and 2nd place isn't even close.
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