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Would these be morals in accordance to YOUR standards or a standard beyond and higher than personal opinion ?
So let's cut to the chase since I already know you're trying to turn this in the direction of the biblical god. If you're going to say or imply that I need to take orders from the biblical god on morals, you have not read about his track record (working with the assumption he actually exists). I'll pass.
You sound like a creationist or even an ID'er that abhors science and reason that would interfere with the fairy tale version of why life exists here.
Stereotype much? If you've ever remembered my posts, you would not have said what you said in your post. By way of reminder, I am a theistic evolutionist, who agrees that the Earth is possibly 4.5 billion years old. Try again.
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Last edited by Miss Blue; 10-31-2011 at 01:54 PM..
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I think it is both ironic and disingenuous that you ask for "indisputable evidence," then when someone gives you mathematical evidence, you ignore it . . .I don't need to promote any theories . . .you are the one who is Hell-bent on evidence so why will you not address the posters who have provided such?
I see you are employing what you must think of as clever diversionary tactics to elude those assertions you have no answer for - just calling you on that, and I will continue to do so if I so choose to waste my time that way. I personally can't stomach people weaseling out of preposterous arguments so that is my personal interest!
The astronomical odds against life arising from nothing does not mean a god must have had a hand in it. I've yet to see any evidence of an intelligent mind that lives outside the natural laws of the universe and is also eternal just poofed everything into being. It's just a silly idea.
The astronomical odds against life arising from nothing does not mean a god must have had a hand in it. I've yet to see any evidence of an intelligent mind that lives outside the natural laws of the universe and is also eternal just poofed everything into being. It's just a silly idea.
And yet the idea that the universe just poofed into everything by mere chance being works for you? Talk about magical thinking.
And yet the idea that the universe just poofed into everything by mere chance being works for you? Talk about magical thinking.
We don't know what caused the universe to come into existence. There are several naturalistic hypotheses, but as of now scientists are unsure of what "sparked" the universe's existence. However, just because we don't know doesn't mean that "God did it." That is a fallacy known as the "God of the Gaps" argument, and it is a poor defense of religion because it states "we don't know, therefore God." However, under such an argument, when science finds evidence to shrink the gap, god shrinks along with it.
The astronomical odds against life arising from nothing does not mean a god must have had a hand in it. I've yet to see any evidence of an intelligent mind that lives outside the natural laws of the universe and is also eternal just poofed everything into being. It's just a silly idea.
Just address the SPECIFIC mathematical assertions that were made, relative to your theory. Thank you!
And yet the idea that the universe just poofed into everything by mere chance being works for you? Talk about magical thinking.
We don't know from what the universe arose. It could have been born from the ashes of a prior universe. I don't know from whence all things came but I don't need to dream up a divine being to explain our existence.
I think it is both ironic and disingenuous that you ask for "indisputable evidence," then when someone gives you mathematical evidence, you ignore it . . .I don't need to promote any theories . . .you are the one who is Hell-bent on evidence so why will you not address the posters who have provided such?
I see you are employing what you must think of as clever diversionary tactics to elude those assertions you have no answer for - just calling you on that, and I will continue to do so if I so choose to waste my time that way. I personally can't stomach people weaseling out of preposterous arguments so that is my personal interest!
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Originally Posted by imcurious
Just address the SPECIFIC mathematical assertions that were made, relative to your theory. Thank you!
I don't need to address the mathematical assertions that were made because they in no way refuted my assertion that our existence on this planet is due to nothing more than chance. If life arises in our universe without the hand of a higher power then it does so strictly by chance. And since there is no proof of said higher power then, well I guess we've won a lottery of astronomical proportions. And I'm not sure what preposterous argument I've made. Please enlighten me.
We don't know from what the universe arose. It could have been born from the ashes of a prior universe. I don't know from whence all things came but I don't need to dream up a divine being to explain our existence.
You don't know.
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