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To be or not to be is is a basic " Proof Law of Logic"; we are, we exist; we exist for a reason, a reason that nature or science can never provide; our very being is proof that existence is logically constructed by a constructor } who is God!
I'll make it easy for you to wrap this one up Mick.
Since existence is proof of God in you eyes. Therefor EVERYTHING is proof of God.
It is an unfounded tradition that God cannot be proven , and like any unfounded tradition, an increase in knowledge can break through those traditions. And science can often help trumpet these breakthroughs. One of the simple ways to prove that God exist, is by examining the " Anthropic Principles."
The Anthropic Principles point out that there are over 100 varibles to existence which would have made life impossible if they were different than they are. And I will be examining the science of Anthroprocentrics, Anthropogenics, Anthropography, Anthropolatry, and Anthropology and show how these sciences undoubtly show the laws of existence were not created by themselves and show undeniable intentive design.
Anthropic means relating to human beings and their existence. One could say existence period! Existence depends on numerous cosmological constants and parameters whose numerical values must fall within a very narrow range of values , which science can track and graph. In these graphs we have formulated, the varibles cannot be altered or nothing would exist. And this is only one reason why we have belief in a God; the probability that so many varibles would align so auspiciously in our favor as humans existing merely by chance- is extreme! So it has led some scientist and philosophers to determine that the laws of existence were providentially engineered and that earth was designed to fit our specific needs.
The universe appears to have been " Fine-Tuned" for our existence.
The human body shows incredible design , and its no leap of faith to then assume a designer is certainly possible.
Its no leap of faith to assume that we are the only humans in the universe; we have the capability of space travel, we have found nothing. If other humans existed they have not found us. Its no leap of faith to assume if life existed elsewhere in the universe, it is searching for other life. Its simply logical science to assume certain things.
If you walked down the street and found a dime, you can assume it was dropped. If you walked further and found three dimes, you can logically and scientifically assume they were dropped. If you continued walking and found 200 dimes perfectly balanced on their edges and laying in specfic patterns you can scientifically and logically assume that this was done deliberately.
And this " Deliberate pattern is all in the universe; all in animal life; all in human life!" It is logical to assume that a God exist.
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.God created the heavens and etc....who said it..Moses...What if God did it?..........God the creator and Religion are two very different things.....The Churches are imperfect earthly institutions and man is imperfect.........made in God's image?....Whoops.... only not prefect.?
What if God created man.........God says, according to scripture........."A fool says in his heart there is no God"...
....Are you trying to convince those fools among us?..
...What I believe is men who say there is no God in their hearts, do not exist. What we have is aggression against the Faith community..
..Some times passive... sometimes not.
A young man told me that he was an atheist, I told him he cannot be an athiest because God did not make atheist, I said you are confused you just need to find what's really in your heart. He came to me later and said I was right. There is a God Creator.
..that's obvious. Another young man told me he was an atheist and I told him about the first young man.. I also told him he was an agnostic...like ST. Thomas, Thomas wanted prof and he got it. Like George Washington Carver asked in prayer, Lord, why did you make the peanut?
'ASK>>>
It's all relative. I can just as easily make an argument that we are simply the 1st grade Science Fair exhibit of an underachieving student who belongs to a super species as you can make the argument that we're the playthings of a benevolent egotistical God.
It is an unfounded tradition that God cannot be proven , and like any unfounded tradition, an increase in knowledge can break through those traditions. And science can often help trumpet these breakthroughs. One of the simple ways to prove that God exist, is by examining the " Anthropic Principles."
The Anthropic Principles point out that there are over 100 varibles to existence which would have made life impossible if they were different than they are. And I will be examining the science of Anthroprocentrics, Anthropogenics, Anthropography, Anthropolatry, and Anthropology and show how these sciences undoubtly show the laws of existence were not created by themselves and show undeniable intentive design.
Anthropic means relating to human beings and their existence. One could say existence period! Existence depends on numerous cosmological constants and parameters whose numerical values must fall within a very narrow range of values , which science can track and graph. In these graphs we have formulated, the varibles cannot be altered or nothing would exist. And this is only one reason why we have belief in a God; the probability that so many varibles would align so auspiciously in our favor as humans existing merely by chance- is extreme! So it has led some scientist and philosophers to determine that the laws of existence were providentially engineered and that earth was designed to fit our specific needs.
The universe appears to have been " Fine-Tuned" for our existence.
The human body shows incredible design , and its no leap of faith to then assume a designer is certainly possible.
Its no leap of faith to assume that we are the only humans in the universe; we have the capability of space travel, we have found nothing. If other humans existed they have not found us. Its no leap of faith to assume if life existed elsewhere in the universe, it is searching for other life. Its simply logical science to assume certain things.
If you walked down the street and found a dime, you can assume it was dropped. If you walked further and found three dimes, you can logically and scientifically assume they were dropped. If you continued walking and found 200 dimes perfectly balanced on their edges and laying in specfic patterns you can scientifically and logically assume that this was done deliberately.
And this " Deliberate pattern is all in the universe; all in animal life; all in human life!" It is logical to assume that a God exist.
1. This same logic can be applied to God in an infinite regression.
2. This argument supports only deism, not Christianity or any specific religion.
3. This argument does not support an omnipotent God, but rather an imperfect creator, given that his creation is clearly imperfect, unless if you apply a convoluted creation theory to rationalize it without the slightest reason to do so.
It is an unfounded tradition that God cannot be proven , and like any unfounded tradition, an increase in knowledge can break through those traditions. And science can often help trumpet these breakthroughs. One of the simple ways to prove that God exist, is by examining the " Anthropic Principles."
The Anthropic Principles point out that there are over 100 varibles to existence which would have made life impossible if they were different than they are. And I will be examining the science of Anthroprocentrics, Anthropogenics, Anthropography, Anthropolatry, and Anthropology and show how these sciences undoubtly show the laws of existence were not created by themselves and show undeniable intentive design.
Anthropic means relating to human beings and their existence. One could say existence period! Existence depends on numerous cosmological constants and parameters whose numerical values must fall within a very narrow range of values , which science can track and graph. In these graphs we have formulated, the varibles cannot be altered or nothing would exist. And this is only one reason why we have belief in a God; the probability that so many varibles would align so auspiciously in our favor as humans existing merely by chance- is extreme! So it has led some scientist and philosophers to determine that the laws of existence were providentially engineered and that earth was designed to fit our specific needs.
The universe appears to have been " Fine-Tuned" for our existence.
The human body shows incredible design , and its no leap of faith to then assume a designer is certainly possible.
Its no leap of faith to assume that we are the only humans in the universe; we have the capability of space travel, we have found nothing. If other humans existed they have not found us. Its no leap of faith to assume if life existed elsewhere in the universe, it is searching for other life. Its simply logical science to assume certain things.
If you walked down the street and found a dime, you can assume it was dropped. If you walked further and found three dimes, you can logically and scientifically assume they were dropped. If you continued walking and found 200 dimes perfectly balanced on their edges and laying in specfic patterns you can scientifically and logically assume that this was done deliberately.
And this " Deliberate pattern is all in the universe; all in animal life; all in human life!" It is logical to assume that a God exist.
All that proves IF anything it would be intellegent design & who says that the universe itself isn't alive & intellegent?
[quote=Sci Fi Fan;25905757]2. This argument supports only deism, not Christianity or any specific religion.
I hold no intrest in supporting religion or Christianity, only that sufficent evidence really does exist to prove that God exist. The belief that Gods existence cannot be proven is a very dense false fad; its ingrained ignorance and buffed up blindness. We have the information and know-how to easily prove his existence in vast multiple manners.
I hold no intrest in supporting religion or Christianity, only that sufficent evidence really does exist to prove that God exist. The belief that Gods existence cannot be proven is a very dense false fad; its ingrained ignorance and buffed up blindness. We have the information and know-how to easily prove his existence in vast multiple manners.
You still haven't answered how your "proof" conforms with the law of parsimony. The exact same logic could be applied to god himself.
Furthermore, you don't understand what constitutes as proof. Try submitting your paper to a hypothetical scientific community that had never conceived of religion, and you'd be laughed and and ridiculed.
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The agrument doesn't convince everyone?
