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Old 12-12-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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The evidence might even convert a few agnostics - maybe even an atheist.
No evidence ever converted a single nonbeliever. Jesus said, "They will not believe even if they SEE a dead man rise from the dead". Conversion is a sovereign action preformed by God out of his will and choice.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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I've seen the miracle of the red wool discredited on a few Jewish websites.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:43 PM
 
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You guys crack me up. I'm a Jew who studies the Talmud, in its native tongue, and the stuff in the articles in the OP are just flat out made up. You people seriously fell for that nonsense? Come on people...
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Old 11-29-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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First, here is the description of these miracles that we find in the Jerusalem Talmud:
"Forty years before the destruction of the Temple, the western light went out, the crimson thread remained crimson, and the lot for the Lord always came up in the left hand. They would close the gates of the Temple by night and get up in the morning and find them wide open" (Jacob Neusner, The Yerushalmi, p.156-157).
Secondly, here is the description of these miracles that we find in the Babylonian Talmud:"Our rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot ['For the Lord'] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-colored strap become white; nor did the western most light shine; and the doors of the Hekel [Temple] would open by themselves" (Soncino version, Yoma 39b).
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The Jewish Talmud Contains Amazing Evidence For Christianity And For The Reality Of Jesus Christ
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:38 AM
 
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Before anyone takes the Talmud as any type of facts, it is not. It is numerous volumes of commentary by righteous Jews. Thus maybe one should know what it is before taking any of links seriously and lacking the context they are missing and was written in.

Talmud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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While interesting, it is not necessarily accurate in claiming miracles (Maybe, maybe not happening), but that is to be expected. To me the main thrust is that they recognized something major happened and that supports the NT account of Jesus being the Christ and the Jewish Nation being abandoned by God for rejecting His son.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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One of the more memorable pieces of the information is where the Jewish Sages recorded how the scarlet ribbon no longer became white and the fact that those things all happened beginning the time of Jesus Crucifixion until 40 years later when the Temple was destroyed.
I read this stuff a long time ago...
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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While interesting, it is not necessarily accurate in claiming miracles (Maybe, maybe not happening), but that is to be expected. To me the main thrust is that they recognized something major happened and that supports the NT account of Jesus being the Christ and the Jewish Nation being abandoned by God for rejecting His son.
Where does it state that HaShem abandoned the Jews?...
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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I didn't read the links, but I do study the Talmud.

God gave us Sabbaths, feast days, but he didn't lay out exactly how things were to be done. We don't have to figure out everything, but if we want to understand the New Testament or Revelation, you have to turn to the Talmud. You have to try and put yourself in the shoes of a Jew who was raised in Oral Torah because the New Testament is filled with Jewish idioms that can only be found in the Talmud.

I don't hold to all the Talmud, but if we didn't have the Talmud, so much information of Messiah would be lost and there would be no way to get it back.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Where does it state that HaShem abandoned the Jews?...
KJV Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

NAB Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house will be abandoned, desolate.
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