Movements to ban kosher, halal slaughter, hijab and circumcision: A sign of rising religious intolerance?

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Originally Posted by LuminousTruth

hiding the face should not be allowed. It allows criminals to get away with crimes. The person would be doing something wrong if hiding the face through masks and hi-jabs and other face-hider instruments was against the law (in order to stop would be or after-the-fact criminals, and possibly deter the ability to hide the face from cameras and witnesses).

About the driving, it's not me you would have to prove that to. And your statements alone aren't enough for me to believe that, although that's a good point about the sunglasses, I was more worried about turning the head etc.

You are forced to have ID cards on you while driving, often when seeking emergency attention, when questioned by the police, when buying certain products at stores, etc.

Kids aren't even allowed to wear hats in school because of fears of gang affiliation. Are you wanting to oppress small gangs but not big gangs? It's ridiculous to think that one is allowed to keep there head down and covered during school without any punishments, so it shouldn't be covered not with hoodies (which can hide earphones) nor with hi-jabs.

No, hiding the face does not allow criminals to get away with crimes, ridiculous to even suggest that. Many people cover their face when cold out, and a person committing a crime is going to cover their face whether illegal or not, so why punish people who otherwise obey the law? And again, why is it criminals who get to set the bar on what people can and cannot do?

Yes, a person has to have a drivers license when driving and purchasing products, other than that, are not required to have any ID with them. A person covering their face when driving and get pulled over, merely has to remove the face covering for identification, not rocket science, same with purchasing a product.

I disagree with not allowing kids to wear hats, certain colors, or other BS; again, criminals dictating to those who obey the law what they can and cannot do; why do you advocate criminals having so much influence on what people are allowed to do?

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I believe these movements are well-meaning but misguided.

First of all, Kosher slaughter was developed because there are rules in Judaism about not causing more pain to an animal than is necessary. Kosher slaughter may not be more humane than modern methods, but the intention was that it would establish a standard for slaughter of all animals to be eaten by Jews. Nowadays, most cows are killed by a little rod that is shot into their brains and then retracted, but in times of yore cows were killed by knifes. A cruel person could easily cause a cow to suffer, but a cruel person is not allowed to slaughter a cow under the rules of Shechitah.

Likewise, Male circumcision is an important covenant for Jews, it's really the one thing you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to do. Not to mention it has all kinds of health and sexual benefits, but that's besides the point.

One day, you take away kosher and halal slaughter, the next you take away circumcision, then the hijab, then all religious symbols in public, then public displays of religion, and one day you wake up and religion is illegal.