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I went vegetarian two years ago, but eventually I incorporated fish back into my diet, partly because I go to a lot of business lunches or dinners and it's just easier, and also it's a lean protein. I know I'm just rationalizing, but I somehow don't feel as if a fish suffers to to the same extent a cow or pig or lamb does.
I think everyone has to do what works best for them and that means we probably all rationalize. Even vegans are taking the life of plants when they eat, so what makes that life any less precious? We can't communicate with plants (most of us anyhow) so how do we know they're okay with being eaten and worn or don't experience pain? Sort of said tongue-in-cheek, sort of not.
I think everyone has to do what works best for them and that means we probably all rationalize. Even vegans are taking the life of plants when they eat, so what makes that life any less precious? We can't communicate with plants (most of us anyhow) so how do we know they're okay with being eaten and worn or don't experience pain? Sort of said tongue-in-cheek, sort of not.
True enough.
I have a deep appreciation for the life of broccoli and celery. The thought of eating either is just too darn painful to bear.
I think everyone has to do what works best for them and that means we probably all rationalize. Even vegans are taking the life of plants when they eat, so what makes that life any less precious? We can't communicate with plants (most of us anyhow) so how do we know they're okay with being eaten and worn or don't experience pain? Sort of said tongue-in-cheek, sort of not.
I know. As someone who thinks <weirdo warning> certain trees are her friends and has done that since childhood, I am not sure plants are not without some sense of what goes on around them. I apologize to my weeds when I rip them out of my garden, and I wait for my tomatoes to die naturally before I pull up the plants. I think I just identify better with animals because I are one.
My daughter is vegan and has been for three years, although she occasionally breaks and has "dairy encounters" with cheese or ice cream. But she embraces the whole lifestyle--wears vegan clothing, vegan makeup, nothing that uses animals if she can help it. I just got to a point where I was having trouble separating the meat in the package at the store with the animal. I was petting a pig one day after I had pork chops, and I said, "I ate your cousin last night. I am sorry."
I accidentally ate some bacon in a dip this past summer. Then again, bacon is so far from "meat" that it has probably reverted to a vegetable, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by TroutDude
True enough.
I have a deep appreciation for the life of broccoli and celery. The thought of eating either is just too darn painful to bear.
So, I don't.
They love to be smothered in cheese. It makes them happy.
While in general I have understood and agreed with your posts in this topic, I have to take exception with one statement you made at the beginning of this post. There are many Christians who have a very strong sense of "humanity".
There are Christians who fit your description. I happen to find them rare species. I don't know how they do it, but at least they don't compromise their sense of justice.
When I was a devout Buddhist in my teenage years, I used to think that karma was the absolute justice. In order to find salvation, one needs to seek refugee in the Buddha, his dharma, and his sangha. There was no hope to escape reincarnation outside 3 Buddhist gems. Like what I mentioned to you, some Buddhist sects have this exclusive view. Even when I was a steadfast Buddhist, I never thought that children deserved to suffer for their bad karma in their previous lives, and I sincerely hoped that there were different ways for salvation outside Buddhism.
Now that I am much more reasonable with my belief, I realize that my devotion to Buddhism was unnecessarily zealous. I had no idea that Christians are even more fanatic than I used to be.
I know. As someone who thinks <weirdo warning> certain trees are her friends and has done that since childhood, I am not sure plants are not without some sense of what goes on around them. I apologize to my weeds when I rip them out of my garden, and I wait for my tomatoes to die naturally before I pull up the plants. I think I just identify better with animals because I are one.
My daughter is vegan and has been for three years, although she occasionally breaks and has "dairy encounters" with cheese or ice cream. But she embraces the whole lifestyle--wears vegan clothing, vegan makeup, nothing that uses animals if she can help it. I just got to a point where I was having trouble separating the meat in the package at the store with the animal. I was petting a pig one day after I had pork chops, and I said, "I ate your cousin last night. I am sorry."
I accidentally ate some bacon in a dip this past summer. Then again, bacon is so far from "meat" that it has probably reverted to a vegetable, don't you think?
They love to be smothered in cheese. It makes them happy.
Example #4296 (approx) of fundie non-think and #6754 (approx) of fundie lack of empathy/compassion evident in CD threads the past few years.
You attack and label people when they don’t even attack you or label you. You are the one who is showing little empathy and compassion. And they say Christians are intolerant and hateful lol.
You attack and label people when they don’t even attack you or label you. You are the one who is showing little empathy and compassion. And they say Christians are intolerant and hateful lol.
I think you're confusing simple disagreement with the existential threat of an attack on your personhood. You should quit associating your personal identity so strongly with your beliefs. They are just ideas in between your ears. Others can fail to share those ideas without it being any sort of problem for you. You can continue to entertain those ideas with all the ardency you wish.
Ironic that you think Trout suggesting someone is lacking compassion is "hateful" but you making the same accusation concerning him is just fine.
I think you're confusing simple disagreement with the existential threat of an attack on your personhood. You should quit associating your personal identity so strongly with your beliefs. They are just ideas in between your ears. Others can fail to share those ideas without it being any sort of problem for you. You can continue to entertain those ideas with all the ardency you wish.
Ironic that you think Trout suggesting someone is lacking compassion is "hateful" but you making the same accusation concerning him is just fine.
Read my quote. Homenj never said trout was lacking compassion but he did. He was who started it not homenj which makes it rude on his part.
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