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I think you're confusing simple disagreement with the existential threat of an attack on your personhood. You should quit associating your personal identity so strongly with your beliefs. They are just ideas in between your ears. Others can fail to share those ideas without it being any sort of problem for you. You can continue to entertain those ideas with all the ardency you wish.
Ironic that you think Trout suggesting someone is lacking compassion is "hateful" but you making the same accusation concerning him is just fine.
Also one can have disagreements. I have friends who are of different faiths and we get along but when you accuse others of showing little compassion, little empathy, and lack of logical thinking (without even knowing them mind you) like what trout was saying it is no longer a simple disagreement but name calling.
Also one can have disagreements. I have friends who are of different faiths and we get along but when you accuse others of showing little compassion, little empathy, and lack of logical thinking (without even knowing them mind you) like what trout was saying it is no longer a simple disagreement but name calling.
I don't agree. These sub-forums are, at least in part, to discuss and debate the rather hot topic of religion. If one can't critique another poster's posts, then it's not much of a debate.
Everyone is welcome here, but just as I found the Politics & Other Controversies too much for me, perhaps you should consider whether the Christianity sub-forum would be more to your liking.
I don't agree. These sub-forums are, at least in part, to discuss and debate the rather hot topic of religion. If one can't critique another poster's posts, then it's not much of a debate.
Everyone is welcome here, but just as I found the Politics & Other Controversies too much for me, perhaps you should consider whether the Christianity sub-forum would be more to your liking.
Alright but if a Christian says someone is immoral for choosing to fornicate none of you can really complain either and say that he or she is being judgemental for that on these forums right?
Alright but if a Christian says someone is immoral for choosing to fornicate none of you can really complain either and say that he or she is being judgemental for that on these forums right?
Of course they can. That's what happens in discussion forums.
Read my quote. Homenj never said trout was lacking compassion but he did. He was who started it not homenj which makes it rude on his part.
"He started it" is not much of a defense I'm afraid.
Lack of empathy is a truth claim that can be refuted by Homenj if Homenj has a refutation for it. It's not somehow wrong to have the temerity to raise the issue, though. Lack of empathy is a valid critique.
You point out elsewhere that Trout doesn't know Homenj and this is true, however, he wasn't saying Homenj lacks empathy, but that his statement lacked it. Perhaps Homenj even appreciates an opportunity to make his rhetoric match is empathetic nature and values, for all we know.
Of course they can. That's what happens in discussion forums.
It is such a fine line, and you guys do such a good job, really. I have been on forums since there were forums, been on all of them, been banned from all of them lol. This is a very fair place and it has to be a team because if you just have one unfair biased mod, there wouldn't be any people left in the forum lol.
Alright but if a Christian says someone is immoral for choosing to fornicate none of you can really complain either and say that he or she is being judgemental for that on these forums right?
The purpose of the sub-forum is to discuss. That's what I just said in the last post.
Alright but if a Christian says someone is immoral for choosing to fornicate none of you can really complain either and say that he or she is being judgemental for that on these forums right?
There is a BIG difference between judging God's standards of do Not fornicate or commit adultery and judging a person who is thus sinning. In other words, God's judgement on matters are already recorded in Scripture for all to see.
What a person does Not want to do is to judge others by imputing a bad or wrong motive to others.
Some sin un-intentionally, whereas others sin on purpose, willfully.
Good one, Matt. In fact, I think we have to accept anyone, Christian or not, condemning Fornication as wrong and immoral. That may be their view and they are entitled to say so. We may argue about that and we may reject totally the Bible or religion as a moral basis for judging it. We are also entitled to say that, too.
Just so it doesn't get all heated and personal in the course of disagreement. But because personal belief is often invested in the views (of both sides) it often does get heated. We need to understnad that, take a breath and step back, and not take it personally.
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