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Old 05-15-2016, 06:39 AM
 
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Don't want to believe in God? Don't believe in God! But denying an afterlife is willful ignorance.

Let me explain. We have in the nature world thousands of plants and animals (probably more, not a scientist). We have natural weather events. The thing is, even a casual look at seasonal patterns, and at certain animals puts doubt to the theory that we have one life and then we die off completely.

First, we have several animals that transform into other creatures. To the creature at its earlier stages, that bug no longer sees its friends anymore and mourns them. That's a hint. We see death as an end, but there is nothing to suggest it isn't a sort of transformation into existence on a parallel universe.

Then we have the seasons. Everything seems to die at winter but returns to life in spring. Another hint. Death and life are a continuum.

Everything in nature shows existence doesn't end but goes dormant.

Then we have this.

The reincarnation of human souls has proved already! - Complete Nonsense Network

Proof! Also Keanu Reeves doesn't age.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:04 AM
 
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Casey Kasem didn't seem to age either. I don't think dormant is the right word. Everything gets recycled. The atoms of your body become something else and who knows what happens to your energy. The example of the seasons even suggests that is the natural order. Without it the particular arrangement I call me would never even have come to be. I don't think it is something to be feared. The question for me would be "is that me?" I am pretty attached to this particular expression of matter or energy or whatever makes up me.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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The 'reincarnation' photos don't prove anything other than some people look a bit like some other people. 7 billion + people alive on the planet today, of course there will be someone dead or alive who looks a bit like you.

In any case you seem to be talking about 2 different concepts. What most people seem to have in mind when they talk about an afterlife is some kind of eternal spiritual life. Reincarnation is a different concept - coming back to earth as another person.
Might be good if you could clarify which one you are talking about.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Proof! Also Keanu Reeves doesn't age.
Oooooh, now THAT was good.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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The 'reincarnation' photos don't prove anything other than some people look a bit like some other people. 7 billion + people alive on the planet today, of course there will be someone dead or alive who looks a bit like you.

In any case you seem to be talking about 2 different concepts. What most people seem to have in mind when they talk about an afterlife is some kind of eternal spiritual life. Reincarnation is a different concept - coming back to earth as another person.
Might be good if you could clarify which one you are talking about.
Or coming back as a different species.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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Don't want to believe in God? Don't believe in God! But denying an afterlife is willful ignorance.

Let me explain. We have in the nature world thousands of plants and animals (probably more, not a scientist). We have natural weather events. The thing is, even a casual look at seasonal patterns, and at certain animals puts doubt to the theory that we have one life and then we die off completely.

First, we have several animals that transform into other creatures. To the creature at its earlier stages, that bug no longer sees its friends anymore and mourns them. That's a hint. We see death as an end, but there is nothing to suggest it isn't a sort of transformation into existence on a parallel universe.

Then we have the seasons. Everything seems to die at winter but returns to life in spring. Another hint. Death and life are a continuum.

Everything in nature shows existence doesn't end but goes dormant.

Then we have this.

The reincarnation of human souls has proved already! - Complete Nonsense Network

Proof! Also Keanu Reeves doesn't age.
I would use more tangile observations.

the probably that personality traits and "atom states" are repeated is pretty high. There is not only a dead ringer for you somewhere there is your "personality double" too. that has nothing to do with "after life" but it does show your life is an illusion.

There is no "after" because you are just a set of events in a larger set of events. Those events are like the word "running" in a football game. The "legs" is the physical part and indistinguishable from the "running". Just as the energy pulse, wave, and water are in the ocean.

The trees and butterfly changes show us what is medically possible in the future. And that DNA is a physical magnification of information that can be stored in pure energy. Which by the way, nobody knows what that is other than doing work. mystics call it "creative". Gray and mystic take that simple idea and produce their version of an illusion of "self see-ers". They have the right idea, they don't understand the science enough.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Also Keanu Reeves doesn't age.
Thank goodness.
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Old 05-15-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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With Jesus Christ the remains of the dead body stay in the grave , but people take their conscious soul remembering their life on the earth , which are collected by God`s Spirit , and protected and live with God for ever more , as their body would be gone and they would receive a glorified Body with substance in the Spirit through Jesus , and they may not look the same as they did on the earth ...... But people need to get Jesus on their lives , and His Holy Spirit on their soul , which God does , and people saved will Know it and Gods Spirit people will know ....
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Old 05-15-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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I would say that the proof of an afterlife is Christ being roused from the dead and ascending to the Father.

"We shall not all die but we shall be change, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, and the dead in Christ will rise first and we who are alive will meet the Lord together in the air. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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Don't want to believe in God? Don't believe in God! But denying an afterlife is willful ignorance.
Let me explain. We have in the nature world thousands of plants and animals (probably more, not a scientist). We have natural weather events.
First, we have several animals that transform into other creatures. To the creature at its earlier stages, that bug no longer sees its friends anymore and mourns them. That's a hint. We see death as an end, but there is nothing to suggest it isn't a sort of transformation into existence on a parallel universe.
Then we have the seasons. Everything seems to die at winter but returns to life in spring. Another hint. Death and life are a continuum.
Everything in nature shows existence doesn't end but goes dormant.
Was it ' afterlife ' or ' resurrection ' that Jesus taught ?_________
Jesus taught the dead are in a sleep-like state before being resurrected - John 11:11-14
Jesus based his teaching on the old Hebrew Scriptures which also teach: unconscious sleep in death.
Such as: Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5

Gospel writer Luke forewarned us at Luke 21:11 that there will be un-natural weather events.
Jesus never taught such things are from God, but merely that such un-natural weather phenomenon would be happening before the start of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth begins.

Without the resurrection hope: death would be the end - Matthew 20:28
Because of Christ's ransom for us enemy death will be brought to nothing according to 1st Corinthians 15:26. Isaiah 25:8
Acts 24:15 uses the ' future tense ' that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.....
A ' future healthy physical resurrection ' to take place on Earth during Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth.
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