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I wasn’t giving evidence. I was responding to your assertion that God made us sinful or flawed.
oh yeah, he didn't make use flawed, we don't know that. It looks like it made us the best it could under the assembly process provided. Thats my point. well, if it existed that is.
oh yeah, there is no proof of free will. In fact, the more we learn the less likely it looks.
oh yeah, he didn't make use flawed, we don't know that. It looks like it made us the best it could under the assembly process provided. Thats my point. well, if it existed that is.
oh yeah, there is no proof of free will. In fact, the more we learn the less likely it looks.
freed will and the brains ability to make choices are not the same thing. I certainly believe in "The brain makes choices within your given brain state". It is not free to make any choice outside of its state, at any given time. and, some choices I cannot make. I will do them and/or I won't do them. period. Unless you seriously change the conditions I am in.
You can't make a choice you don't have in your brain. either way, free will doesn't prove a thing.
Wow! this thread exploded. I will read it all and respond individually, Miss H. It is difficult for those who have not had a personal experience of God to credit the experiences of those who have.
Would you think that me never having a personal experience of god is my fault or gods?
Programmed is a good word for many evangelical Christians. But you can see the monster that is hiding just below the surface.
You can see the monster in any evangelical, whether religious or anti-religious. Anyone who wants to recreate the world in his own image. That could to apply to an atheist also.
machine langue.
people that don't understand what machine langue ... is ... don't have all the information needed. In both camps.
people that don't understand what machine langue ... is ... don't have all the information needed. In both camps.
We can always look it up. This is the secret to atheist apologetics - we don't have to be experts in anything. Indeed it is better is we are not. We have to be able to field anything from Quantum mechanics to the duties of a 1st century Procurator. And being able to look it up on the Internet is what kick -started atheist apologetics.
Machine -readable computer code. What point were you making? Ozzy's was the usual 'anyone who tries to do anything is an extremist' nonsense, but your post seems to be nonsense without any point.
No one is saying you weren’t a real Christian. Only God knows that. What we’re saying is, if you really were, you still are.
Folks, we now have a new definition of Christian - an atheist who was once a Christian. Come to think of it....I believe I heard that Believers do not and cannot believe that we really disbelieve. In any case, this means that Matt Dillahunty gets to heaven, and the Pope doesn't because he didn't believe the right denomination.
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Folks, we now have a new definition of Christian - an atheist who was once a Christian. Come to think of it....I believe I heard that Believers do not and cannot believe that we really disbelieve. On any case, this means that Matt Dillahunty gets to heaven, and the Pope doesn't because he didn't believe the right denomination.
No one who has experienced Christ has been disappointed.
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