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Old 10-08-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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The Holy Quran is 1400 years old.
was it known 1400 years ago as we climb higher there is less oxygen?


yes, we climb higher, its harder to breath ... that's what they knew. They knew that for 10000 or more. so you are just making stuff. just like your percent oxygen numbers.

Its a shame, I know there is no free will, but wow, some of us have far less than others. I guess that's why you, and other mill/fundy mentals need violence.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:48 AM
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My understanding is:

At the top of Mount Everest, the percentage of oxygen in the air is the same as that at sea level (about 20% oxygen). However, atmospheric pressure decreases as altitude increases, and the atmospheric pressure at the summit of Everest is 33% that of sea level. Therefore, there is 66% less oxygen than there is at sea level.

Therefore, the oxygen level is approximately 7% at Everest not 33%.

So this comment by truth teller is WRONG!

'Mount Everest، is about 9 thousands meters high but it still contains about 33% of oxygen'

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Old 10-08-2017, 11:08 AM
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The Holy Quran is 1400 years old.
was it known 1400 years ago as we climb higher there is less oxygen?
The two images from this post contradict each other:

One has 20.9% oxygen at sea level and the other has 100%, one has 6.9% at Everest and the other has 33%

Someone needs to get their facts and math straight.
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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So the figure of 33% is reasonable to say but that figure is not expressed in the Quran. Only the fact that breathing becomes laboured at higher altitude while exerting. The Quran is only stating a known fact. No devine revelation.
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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My understanding is:

At the top of Mount Everest, the percentage of oxygen in the air is the same as that at sea level (about 20% oxygen). However, atmospheric pressure decreases as altitude increases, and the atmospheric pressure at the summit of Everest is 33% that of sea level. Therefore, there is 66% less oxygen than there is at sea level.

Therefore, the oxygen level is approximately 7% at Everest not 33%.

So this comment by truth teller is WRONG!

'Mount Everest، is about 9 thousands meters high but it still contains about 33% of oxygen'
Thanks for that. To be fair, TT probably took the 33% percent at face value, and while I was surprised, I accepted it too (it's always good to check ). It didn't matter, because the symptoms clambering up much lower slopes would be a good enough explanation, so we don't need the science of high altitude peaks.
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:53 AM
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Thanks for that. To be fair, TT probably took the 33% percent at face value, and while I was surprised, I accepted it too (it's always good to check ). It didn't matter, because the symptoms clambering up much lower slopes would be a good enough explanation, so we don't need the science of high altitude peaks.
Yes, none of these points matter in regard to the fact that mere experience in climbing in altitude will restrict ones breathing and cause one to breath more heavily to get more oxygen into the lungs and thus into the blood stream. Any conscious person would be aware of this experience without any need for revelation from a god.
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Old 10-08-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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My understanding is:

At the top of Mount Everest, the percentage of oxygen in the air is the same as that at sea level (about 20% oxygen). However, atmospheric pressure decreases as altitude increases, and the atmospheric pressure at the summit of Everest is 33% that of sea level. Therefore, there is 66% less oxygen than there is at sea level.

Therefore, the oxygen level is approximately 7% at Everest not 33%.

So this comment by truth teller is WRONG!

'Mount Everest، is about 9 thousands meters high but it still contains about 33% of oxygen'
TY for the info.

The point is. people knew long before 1400 years ago that when you climb mountains you get out of breath faster. The claim that a stone person saw an angel and was that angel first to tell humans about losing our breath as we go higher in altitude is foolish.

Nobody in there right mind would believe that. It amazes me how people incorrectly think intelligence, as we measure it, precludes us from insanity, when in fact, the brain doesn't function well out of its design parameters, either too high or too low.

the middle of the roads need to unite under relentless common sense.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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Therefore, the oxygen level is approximately 7% at Everest not 33%.

So this comment by truth teller is WRONG!
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Originally Posted by Shiloh1 View Post
The two images from this post contradict each other:

One has 20.9% oxygen at sea level and the other has 100%, one has 6.9% at Everest and the other has 33%

Someone needs to get their facts and math straight.

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TT probably took the 33% percent at face value, .
The Air has 20.9% oxygen at sea level
and has 6.9% at Everest and that equal 33% of available oxygen at sea level
divide 6.9 by 20.9 you will get 33%.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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The Air has 20.9% oxygen at sea level
and has 6.9% at Everest and that equal 33% of available oxygen at sea level
divide 6.9 by 20.9 you will get 33%.
Don't confuse Air with Oxygen content.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Nanaimo, Canada
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[/b][/i]Therefore, the oxygen level is approximately 7% at Everest not 33%.

[/font]So this comment by truth teller is WRONG!
Actually...he's quite correct.

At 8900 m (the height of Everest's summit), the standard barometric pressure is 33 kPa. Inspirational oxygen is, indeed, 33% of that available at sea level.

Altitude.org | Altitude air pressure calculator

http://www.vmeverest09.com/oxygen-at-altitude/
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