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Old 04-14-2020, 06:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
Do you think before you write?
First you say that everything is questionable. Then you say it's not.
your interpretation is wrong
the correct interpretation is
everything is questionable except the origin word of Allah in its origin language .
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Old 04-14-2020, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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your interpretation is wrong
the correct interpretation is
everything is questionable except the origin word of Allah in its origin language .
Sorry. As you may have noticed, many of us question it. Wrong again.
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Old 04-16-2020, 05:09 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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This might be the saddest, most pathetic thread on CD.
I appreciate TT like I appreciated Pneuma..at his best. If TT can't make a case for the validity of the Quran as the word of Allah, and the the truth of the religion, I don't see that anybody can.
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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another evidence

in order for someone to describe a scene he needs to see it first or know about it

zebras live in Africa

in the Quran there is a verse about zebras scene
[74:40] While in Paradise, they will ask.
[74:41] About the guilty.
[74:42] "What brought you to this retribution?"
[74:43] They will say, "We did not observe the contact prayers (Salat).
[74:44] "We did not feed the poor.
[74:45] "We blundered with the blunderers.
[74:46] "We disbelieved in the Day of Judgment.
[74:47] "Until certainty came to us now."
[74:48] The intercession of the intercessors will never help them.
[74:49] Why are they so averse to this reminder?
[74:50] Running like zebras.
[74:51] Who are fleeing from the lion!
[74:52] Does each one of them want to receive the scripture personally?
[74:53] Indeed, they do not fear the Hereafter.
[74:54] Indeed, this is a reminder.
[74:55] For those who wish to take heed.
[74:56] They cannot take heed against GOD's will. He is the source of righteousness; He is the source of forgiveness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NvgKDRQuPQ
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Germany
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another evidence

in order for someone to describe a scene he needs to see it first or know about it

zebras live in Africa

in the Quran there is a verse about zebras scene
[74:40] While in Paradise, they will ask.
[74:41] About the guilty.
[74:42] "What brought you to this retribution?"
[74:43] They will say, "We did not observe the contact prayers (Salat).
[74:44] "We did not feed the poor.
[74:45] "We blundered with the blunderers.
[74:46] "We disbelieved in the Day of Judgment.
[74:47] "Until certainty came to us now."
[74:48] The intercession of the intercessors will never help them.
[74:49] Why are they so averse to this reminder?
[74:50] Running like zebras.
[74:51] Who are fleeing from the lion!
[74:52] Does each one of them want to receive the scripture personally?
[74:53] Indeed, they do not fear the Hereafter.
[74:54] Indeed, this is a reminder.
[74:55] For those who wish to take heed.
[74:56] They cannot take heed against GOD's will. He is the source of righteousness; He is the source of forgiveness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NvgKDRQuPQ
This says donkeys.

https://quran.com/74/50
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Old 07-22-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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This says donkeys.

https://quran.com/74/50
TT is incorrigible. I'd have thought the fresh/salt fallacy plus the (apparent) collapse of the 'Low place' apologetic would have silenced him. But here he is with a truly weak argument. The Arabs had never heard of zebras? The Romans knew all about them.

It would be weak even without it actually being 'donkeys'. But this is all good because we can see how this can be used to 'stump' the unbeliever. 'Unquestionable evidences! How can you explain this other than as a revelation from Allah?'

Well, as is the case with the lies and misrepresentations of Christianity, you need to check the claims, which the faithful never do. Nor (it seems) do they ever get fazed when their 'evidences' prove to be fallacies and lies.
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Old 07-22-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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another evidence

in order for someone to describe a scene he needs to see it first or know about it

zebras live in Africa

in the Quran there is a verse about zebras scene
...
[74:50] Running like zebras.
[74:51] Who are fleeing from the lion!
...
Sorry, but I am confused as to the significance of this. Is the implication that the writer had been to Africa (not surprising, given the origin)... or was otherwise aware that zebras run away from lions? What is this evidence of?
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Old 07-23-2020, 08:26 AM
 
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This says donkeys.

https://quran.com/74/50
The origin Arabic word and its meaning in Arabic is the correct interpretation.
in English there are three different translations
Yusuf Ali: As if they were affrighted asses,
Shakir: As if they were asses taking fright
Pickthall: As they were frightened asses
Mohsin Khan: As if they were (frightened) wild donkeys.
Saheeh: As if they were alarmed donkeys
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:29 PM
 
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The origin Arabic word and its meaning in Arabic is the correct interpretation.
in English there are three different translations
Yusuf Ali: As if they were affrighted asses,
Shakir: As if they were asses taking fright
Pickthall: As they were frightened asses
Mohsin Khan: As if they were (frightened) wild donkeys.
Saheeh: As if they were alarmed donkeys
you mean smart people back then describe the world around them and some of those things turned out to be true?

no way.
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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Sorry, but I am confused as to the significance of this. Is the implication that the writer had been to Africa (not surprising, given the origin)... or was otherwise aware that zebras run away from lions? What is this evidence of?

this is only one of the many proofs that are in this thread that proves the Holy Quran is from Allah the only god
and to prove that Muhammed is his final messenger.

the Holy Quran contains knowledge that could not be mentioned by any human being at that time
or at the area of the messenger of Allah Muhammed (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
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