Ark Encounter visits down, once again. (paradise, pyramids, hell, quote)
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Since the dust hath settled. I want to thank Jeff and BF for their stalwart efforts to defend Christianity in general, even if it means defending people who (for all I know) they have doctrinally consigned to Hell. But then Jews, Christians and Muslims will stand shoulder to shoulder in the wake of the Tsunami (the old one, not the recent one) to battle against doubters that this was sent by God to punish the wicked.
It seems to me that it is pointless to brate us for wanting the Ark to fail. For us, this is a shocking centre of lies and misinformation, even if it wasn't financially and legally dodgy. That it creates jobs and local business is not a reason to approve it, but a pretext for excusing it. As I said, I'd be happy with the thing, thunderous eyesore that it is, if it was turned into an evolutionary information centre.
The supposed benefits haven't materialised as much as were promised, though it's probably doing OK. A steady flow of visitors and income. And how many will go back a second time?
In all we are probably stuck with it and Ken Ham, and it isn't the Creation Museum and Bible Disneyland going into receivership that will see this blot on the American cultural and educational landscape bulldozed into landfill, but a change in American thought.
Hey BFun, BEGOOD and give that $48 you would have spent on a ticket for me and hand it to one of the many homeless people you have in your nearest town.
Since the dust hath settled. I want to thank Jeff and BF for their stalwart efforts to defend Christianity in general, even if it means defending people who (for all I know) they have doctrinally consigned to Hell. But then Jews, Christians and Muslims will stand shoulder to shoulder in the wake of the Tsunami (the old one, not the recent one) to battle against doubters that this was sent by God to punish the wicked.
It seems to me that it is pointless to brate us for wanting the Ark to fail. For us, this is a shocking centre of lies and misinformation, even if it wasn't financially and legally dodgy. That it creates jobs and local business is not a reason to approve it, but a pretext for excusing it. As I said, I'd be happy with the thing, thunderous eyesore that it is, if it was turned into an evolutionary information centre.
The supposed benefits haven't materialised as much as were promised, though it's probably doing OK. A steady flow of visitors and income. And how many will go back a second time?
In all we are probably stuck with it and Ken Ham, and it isn't the Creation Museum and Bible Disneyland going into receivership that will see this blot on the American cultural and educational landscape bulldozed into landfill, but a change in American thought.
What the Ark Encounter really is, for sure...is a glaring example of how much mojo Religion has.
Religion can get jillions of people to do almost anything. And much of it some really messed up stuff. Wow.
Thank you for explaining that to us, Goldie old mate. We were really unaware of the Clout the religion has worldwide, and what a job of work we have got to do.
Its a joke, no wood boat could be that big, not all the species could have fit and it goes on and on. BS LOL
Our old Mate Eusebius was really the best opponent we ever had on the subject. Somehow he dropped his argument that the Chinese in the Ming dynasty made ocean -going ships even longer than than the Ark. Or perhaps be accepted that the only way such a ship could be seaworthy was if it was iron-framed (and the Ming of course, had iron). So the debate was about proving that Noah, as well as being a wealthy businessman, an expert shipbuilder, an expert vet. (since you lose a single animal, and the species is extinct)and an inventor that would have made Leonardo look like Homer Simpson, he was an expert forger of iron even before the bronze age.
For some reason, he preferred not to go down the Baryma route of reducing all the species to a cat -sized originator of all species, perhaps because 1,000 years of High- speed Darwinism, post flood, didn't sit well with him. Instead he had a simple and elegantly Eusebian answer: "It says so in the Bible, so it must have happened in some way."
Thank you for explaining that to us, Goldie old mate. We were really unaware of the Clout the religion has worldwide, and what a job of work we have got to do.
Glad to help.
But...don't waste your time. You can accomplish more pounding sand, or spitting into a strong wind.
Not that I revel in that fact...but, just the reality of it.
And, I have told you before, The first Christians were no doubt told the same.
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Our old Mate Eusebius was really the best opponent we ever had on the subject. Somehow he dropped his argument that the Chinese in the Ming dynasty made ocean -going ships even longer than than the Ark. Or perhaps be accepted that the only way such a ship could be seaworthy was if it was iron-framed (and the Ming of course, had iron). So the debate was about proving that Noah, as well as being a wealthy businessman, an expert shipbuilder, an expert vet. (since you lose a single animal, and the species is extinct)and an inventor that would have made Leonardo look like Homer Simpson, he was an expert forger of iron even before the bronze age. 
