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So when an infant takes another infant's toy and refuses to give it back is that sin?
The point I am making and which you and those who agree with you aren't addressing is when does natural infant behavior become sin?
I'll ask again, can you make an effort to answer that?
I've been told we are born sinful. Others may think not. So when does the change take place?
If you believe that the taking infant can understand and relate to the pain he caused, you have a point. I don't believe that. The change takes place when those attributes of community mentioned before become conscious in the individual and are capable of being applied to less close relationships within that society. It starts with family and works outward, hopefully to the level Jesus spoke of in the last few verses of Matthew 5.
So when an infant takes another infant's toy and refuses to give it back is that sin?
The point I am making and which you and those who agree with you aren't addressing is when does natural infant behavior become sin?
I'll ask again, can you make an effort to answer that?
I've been told we are born sinful. Others may think not. So when does the change take place?
Pardon my interjection.
Thank you for the perspective concerning accountability in terms of age and cognitive development.
Being somewhat a rare case example from my personal early memories.
I had a cousin who was a month or so older than me.
At two or so yrs old I had a red car, it was a close replica of a 65 mustang. One day during a social event where both of us interacted I shared the toy.
Problem was he didn't give it back before leaving to go home.
So, skip forward a few yrs, possibly a decade or so and I was always looking forward to seeing him again thinking my cousin kept the toy and would return it to me the next time we saw each other.
Even at two yrs old this was my personal view.,"not taught"!
So, after a decade or so I was able to visit with my cousin at his house on a family occasion.
At one point during our visit I asked him to give the car back. To my surprise he had no idea what I was talking about even after explaining the details.
Now as an adult.
There is no way I could ever impute sin on my cousin for such a thing.
And Normal adults don't, as far as I know.
Yet, I've heard some disturbing statements of indifferent and cruel people who have no memory from their own childhood.
I could give countless examples from experience, that would conclusively destroy arguements given by supposed psychologist who are simply ignorant of tangible evidence.
If you believe that the taking infant can understand and relate to the pain he caused, you have a point. I don't believe that. The change takes place when those attributes of community mentioned before become conscious in the individual and are capable of being applied to less close relationships within that society. It starts with family and works outward, hopefully to the level Jesus spoke of in the last few verses of Matthew 5.
Thanks to you and pinacled for your responses.
Would it be safe to say that in your theology mentally handicapped (retarded) people can be without sin, then?
Would it be safe to say that in your theology mentally handicapped (retarded) people can be without sin, then?
Depends on the circumstance and age.
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