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Yes. While far be it from me to try to instruct Jews in their own Book (I get into enough trouble trying to instruct Christians) Job does make Satan look like an adversary - someone (or someThing) trying to undermine God and mess up his organisation. Rather reminds me of Milo in Catch 22. He doesn't so much oppose him, nor does he act as a gofor. Rather he bamboozles a not -too brilliant commander into giving him a free hand.
Yes. While far be it from me to try to instruct Jews in their own Book (I get into enough trouble trying to instruct Christians) Job does make Satan look like an adversary - someone (or someThing) trying to undermine God and mess up his organisation. Rather reminds me of Milo in Catch 22. He doesn't so much oppose him, nor does he act as a gofor. Rather he bamboozles a not -too brilliant commander into giving him a free hand.
Jesus called his disciples sons of Satan because they were sons of Satan, Satan had not suddenly entered them, they were born of Satan, and sometimes a person needs to be handed over to Satan that he may be sifted as wheat, and then returned in strength.
The Most beautiful creature was a covering Cherub in the Garden, it was Adam's covering until the whole creation fell, just my opinion.
Judaism teaches that human beings are not basically sinful. We come into the world neither carrying the burden of sin committed by our ancestors nor tainted by it. Rather, sin, chet, is the result of our human inclinations, the yetzer, which must be properly channeled. - https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...h-view-of-sin/
It is not really difficult if one desires to be a good person...
Biblical Judaism has long since been replaced by Rabbinical Judaism
"Judaism, as it has developed over the centuries, is not solely or simply a derivative of the Hebrew Bible. It does take its cue from the Bible, of course, but in many respects only indirectly. To be more exact Judaism derives from the Bible as it is interpreted through the filter of Rabbinic perspectives: the perspective of the rabbis who lived in the early century of the common era and who determined how the Bible was to be understood, implemented, and applied to changing times, to new conditions and dimensions of life."-Rabbinic Judaism and Early Christianity: From the Pharisees to the rabbis authored by Michael Cook.
"About the time of the beginning of Christianity three main conceptions of sin struggled for recognition in Judaism. The first regarded corruption of the race as hereditary. The second vaguely asserted as connection between Adam’s sin and his posterity’s liability to punishment, without defining the exact nature of the connection. The third view considered all sin as the fruit of man’s own action."-Cohon, Samuel, Essays in Jewish Theology (Samuel Cohon was a Rabbi and Chair of Theology at Hebrew Union College
Modern Judaism shares a characteristic that also is found in mainstream modern Christian thinking and that is the Bible has been interpreted by x,y,and z. However, let Scripture interpret Scripture
It may be that because the followers of Jesus including the Apostles held that sin was a universal contaminant that rabbis began to argue against the concept as a means of differentiating Judaism further from the rise of Christianity. Certainly ancient Jews had a concept of sin as being passed from Adam to succeeding generations:
"Behold, with iniquity I was formed, and with sin my mother conceived me." Tehillim (Psalm) 51:7
"Look! I was born guilty of error,And my mother conceived me in sin" Psalm 51:5
"If they sin against You, for (there is) no man who does not sin
" -Melachim 1 (1 Kings) 8:46
"If they sin against you for there is no man who does not sin"-1 Kings 8:46
"For there is no righteous man on earth who does good and sins not."-Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) 7:20
"For there is no righteous man on earth who always does good and never sins."-Ecclesiastes 7:20
I do however agree with you that if one desires to be a good person they can be. There's inherited sin that is passed on from Adam and, for a Christian, liberation from inherited sin is from YHWH through Jesus. There is also willful sin that leads to wicked acts that we can refrain from.
Judaism teaches that human beings are not basically sinful. We come into the world neither carrying the burden of sin committed by our ancestors nor tainted by it. Rather, sin, chet, is the result of our human inclinations, the yetzer, which must be properly channeled. - https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...h-view-of-sin/
It is not really difficult if one desires to be a good person...
So you mean there is no difference between a Malia Obama and a commoner Lakesha Jones? After all both are of same color and babies born in Northern Chicago right??
Biblical Judaism has long since been replaced by Rabbinical Judaism
"Judaism, as it has developed over the centuries, is not solely or simply a derivative of the Hebrew Bible. It does take its cue from the Bible, of course, but in many respects only indirectly. To be more exact Judaism derives from the Bible as it is interpreted through the filter of Rabbinic perspectives: the perspective of the rabbis who lived in the early century of the common era and who determined how the Bible was to be understood, implemented, and applied to changing times, to new conditions and dimensions of life."-Rabbinic Judaism and Early Christianity: From the Pharisees to the rabbis authored by Michael Cook.
"About the time of the beginning of Christianity three main conceptions of sin struggled for recognition in Judaism. The first regarded corruption of the race as hereditary. The second vaguely asserted as connection between Adam’s sin and his posterity’s liability to punishment, without defining the exact nature of the connection. The third view considered all sin as the fruit of man’s own action."-Cohon, Samuel, Essays in Jewish Theology (Samuel Cohon was a Rabbi and Chair of Theology at Hebrew Union College
Modern Judaism shares a characteristic that also is found in mainstream modern Christian thinking and that is the Bible has been interpreted by x,y,and z. However, let Scripture interpret Scripture
It may be that because the followers of Jesus including the Apostles held that sin was a universal contaminant that rabbis began to argue against the concept as a means of differentiating Judaism further from the rise of Christianity. Certainly ancient Jews had a concept of sin as being passed from Adam to succeeding generations:
"Behold, with iniquity I was formed, and with sin my mother conceived me." Tehillim (Psalm) 51:7
"Look! I was born guilty of error,And my mother conceived me in sin" Psalm 51:5
"If they sin against You, for (there is) no man who does not sin
" -Melachim 1 (1 Kings) 8:46
"If they sin against you for there is no man who does not sin"-1 Kings 8:46
"For there is no righteous man on earth who does good and sins not."-Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) 7:20
"For there is no righteous man on earth who always does good and never sins."-Ecclesiastes 7:20
I do however agree with you that if one desires to be a good person they can be. There's inherited sin that is passed on from Adam and, for a Christian, liberation from inherited sin is from YHWH through Jesus. There is also willful sin that leads to wicked acts that we can refrain from.
To answer the bolded i will simply share with you what the disciple yakov(james was taught.
Sorry, but every premise youve shared is false.
So From what yakov is teaching, what mother do you suppose david is speaking of? Every seed after its own kind. 1]but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.
2]Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin;
3]and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters. 17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.
Judaism teaches that human beings are not basically sinful. We come into the world neither carrying the burden of sin committed by our ancestors nor tainted by it. Rather, sin, chet, is the result of our human inclinations, the yetzer, which must be properly channeled. - https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...h-view-of-sin/
It is not really difficult if one desires to be a good person...
How does one account for the fact that from a psychological point of view we are born wholly and totally self-centered and need to be taught to share, to care about others? Wouldn't that very human inclination be considered a sin?
And doesn't that require an otherworldly influence to rise above our basic nature?
How does one account for the fact that from a psychological point of view we are born wholly and totally self-centered and need to be taught to share, to care about others? Wouldn't that very human inclination be considered a sin?
And doesn't that require an otherworldly influence to rise above our basic nature?
Imputing sin where there is none is a false teaching.
To be of need of water food and clothing is not a fault. Only the wicked would withhold these provisions to oppress the poor and further their own greed.
Sin is measured by the hardness of the heart.
Where is the compassion for a person who eats freely. To those who have and do not consider their neighbor needs food also is a liar and theif.
Just as the Lord provided sustenance and instructed us to leave provisions for the poor.
A person will see the Good gift given from above and be thankful.
Blessed be the name of the Holy One who was, is, and is to come.
Ezekekiel 13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
My opinion is that mankind had a spiritual covering which made them immortal but that covering fell and left them naked without a covering, and then they tried to cover themselves in the wrong covering until God covered them.
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