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Old 10-07-2018, 12:29 AM
 
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I was reading thru a 'compendium of demons' earlier, which basically lists what rank they hold among some other information, this is an example of one below.

The question is, how do we know these things (like the form they take when they are called upon), or what it means that they 'teach' certain things, apparently this demon teaches arts and mysteries of the sky (teaches this to whom?).

Another thing it mentions is the particular gift or power they can give man, this one is said to induce immortality, some other demons are said to make people invisible, others can change them into animals, etc, etc....again, where does this information come from? how do we know they bestow people with these things?

Allocer






Allocer


Allocer (also spelled Alocer or Alloces) is a demon whose title is Great Duke of Hell, and who has thirty-six legions of demons under his command. He induces people to immorality and teaches arts and all mysteries of the sky.
He is described as appearing in the shape of a knight mounted on an enormous horse. His face has leonine characteristics; he has a ruddy complexion and burning eyes; and he speaks with much gravity. He is said to provide good familiars, and to teach astronomy and liberal arts. Allocer is often depicted riding a horse with dragon legs.
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Old 10-07-2018, 05:30 AM
 
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I was reading thru a 'compendium of demons' earlier, which basically lists what rank they hold among some other information, this is an example of one below.

The question is, how do we know these things (like the form they take when they are called upon), or what it means that they 'teach' certain things, apparently this demon teaches arts and mysteries of the sky (teaches this to whom?).

Another thing it mentions is the particular gift or power they can give man, this one is said to induce .

Some people summoned demons. See for example Johannes Faust, Magia naturalis et innaturalis. This book is free on net. But, it is dangerous.

"Christian" magicks called upon mostly a hells demons. And people came in next life between such beings they call.
I think, better are eastern and ancient practices.
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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...Belief in demons is thus generally present but very peripheral in the Jewish scheme. No representative thinker, for instance, ever thought of dubbing Ibn Ezra a heretic because he refused to believe in demons. Needless to say, sophisticated Jewish thinkers who did believe in the existence of demons did not think of these as little devils with forked tails breathing fire but as spiritual forces which God has unleashed in the world for purposes of His own, or as harmful psychological processes which take place in the human mind. - https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...eve-in-demons/
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:58 AM
 
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2018 and some people still believe in 'demons'. You couldn't make it up!
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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I was reading thru a 'compendium of demons' earlier, which basically lists what rank they hold among some other information, this is an example of one below.

The question is, how do we know these things (like the form they take when they are called upon), or what it means that they 'teach' certain things, apparently this demon teaches arts and mysteries of the sky (teaches this to whom?).

Another thing it mentions is the particular gift or power they can give man, this one is said to induce immortality, some other demons are said to make people invisible, others can change them into animals, etc, etc....again, where does this information come from? how do we know they bestow people with these things?
The obvious answer is that these things are completely fictional, and the reason we know them is that we have read the fictional writings of various authors.
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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I was reading thru a 'compendium of demons' earlier, which basically lists what rank they hold among some other information, this is an example of one below.

The question is, how do we know these things (like the form they take when they are called upon), or what it means that they 'teach' certain things, apparently this demon teaches arts and mysteries of the sky (teaches this to whom?).

Another thing it mentions is the particular gift or power they can give man, this one is said to induce immortality, some other demons are said to make people invisible, others can change them into animals, etc, etc....again, where does this information come from? how do we know they bestow people with these things?


Allocer






Allocer


Allocer (also spelled Alocer or Alloces) is a demon whose title is Great Duke of Hell, and who has thirty-six legions of demons under his command. He induces people to immorality and teaches arts and all mysteries of the sky.
He is described as appearing in the shape of a knight mounted on an enormous horse. His face has leonine characteristics; he has a ruddy complexion and burning eyes; and he speaks with much gravity. He is said to provide good familiars, and to teach astronomy and liberal arts. Allocer is often depicted riding a horse with dragon legs.
I want to know too! You go over to the Bohemian Grove and demand answers and I'll support you, from afar.
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Old 10-07-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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2018 and some people still believe in 'demons'. You couldn't make it up!
All I know is if I ever get possessed by a demon............I hope it's Allocer
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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Some people summoned demons. See for example Johannes Faust, Magia naturalis et innaturalis. This book is free on net. But, it is dangerous.

"Christian" magicks called upon mostly a hells demons. And people came in next life between such beings they call.
I think, better are eastern and ancient practices.
So people have summoned all these demons and the demons told them these things about themselves? Id like to see some of the video of that!

I guess if this is true, there are people out there that are immortal, can make themselves invisible, turn into an animal, etc.
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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I want to know too! You go over to the Bohemian Grove and demand answers and I'll support you, from afar.
Bohemian Grove is made up of humans,(wealthy and powerful humans).
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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All I know is if I ever get possessed by a demon............I hope it's Allocer
There is another one that can bestow the power of invisibility, I think Id like this more!
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