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There is plenty of evidence, as I said, but devout atheists can always find convoluted ways to explain it away.
There is plenty of evidence for fairies...if you believe in fairies.
What evidence has to be is VERIFIABLE and that is not what the evidence for gods (or fairies) is.
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The science most of you are talking about I believe is forever changing, and I don't buy into much of it. Great for the books and the scientists and many other things, but not for the way I conduct my life.
...and how much of the way you conduct your life doesn't rely on science?
The science most of you are talking about I believe is forever changing, and I don't buy into much of it. Great for the books and the scientists and many other things, but not for the way I conduct my life. I've gotten past believing in any god stuff so what I do believe I change some of the thinking for what works for me.
Fundamentally incorrect.
Newtonian physics hasn’t changed much in centuries. We use it to launch rockets and fly airplanes with a great deal if success.
Electromagnetism has a similarly solid foundation. We use our knowledge to generate electricity, run MRI machines, and operate the internet. I am pretty confident that you can read my post because of our understanding of this field.
We know a bunch about anatomy. Doctors operate every day, and can reliably find your gall bladder or heart.
Materials science is pretty good. I know that if certain processes are followed, we get steel that is reliable enough to allow us to build suspension bridges and skyscrapers.
The fringes of our knowledge are subject to change of course, because they are the fringes. These are the areas of partial understanding and incomplete knowledge. We are getting better about these things. Sure, we don’t know how to treat all diseases or what the ideal diet is for all people, but we do know that antibiotics work and too much cholesterol isn’t good for you.
This oft repeated trope that science isn’t reliable because it changes betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of science, and willful ignorance of what we do know.
They don't say science is "all-knowing." They say it is "self-correcting."
And good science should be self correcting. You make it sound like that is a problem. Mein Gott, learning from people pointing out problems with your work, how unthinkable.
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And they say there is nothing preventing from answering all questions eventually.
So you keep asserting without evidence.
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So same difference, different words.
So completely different, then.
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Oh yes lots of them do expect science to provide all answers. And they think science has answered questions it has not answered.
Oh those straw man scientists.
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There is plenty of evidence, as I said, but devout atheists can always find convoluted ways to explain it away.
Ad hominem, question begging and straw man, three fallacies for the price of one. Honest people (who may or may not be atheists) pointing out uncomfortable facts, such as the need for creationists to lie, is the opposite of what you wrote.
And good science should be self correcting. You make it sound like that is a problem. Mein Gott, learning from people pointing out problems with your work, how unthinkable.
I never said it should not be self-correcting. I said that science worshipers believe it is infallible because it is self correcting.
But never mind, people who are trying not to understand will never understand.
What is a devout atheist? How can one show deep religous feeling towards one's lack of religous belief?
Richard Dawkins is one example. All his followers are examples. Probably most atheists have very deep feelings against religion. I call that devout. You can look up the definition.
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