Why do sceptics and atheists post on this and other (after-life, contradictions)
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It does if you read further instead of taking it out of context. I went on to talk of how making someone freely do something is logically impossible. God's omnipotence would only be contradicted if there was some power he lacked, but there is no such power as the ability to do what's logically absurd.
Or, if you want to insist that god's omnipotence entails the ability to do the logically impossible, the theist can always respond with "Very well. God exists even though this argument proves he doesn't, since he can do the logically impossible".
What is the generally accepted meaning of omnipotence?
Doesn't really matter. What matters is that regardless of which definition you use, it doesn't lead to a good objection against my argument, as I tried to show. If it's "the ability to do anything, even if it's logically impossible", then the theist can respond by saying god's doing the logically impossible by existing despite proof that he doesn't. If it's "having all powers", well there can be no such thing as the power to do the logically absurd so omnipotence is still maintained.
Doesn't really matter. What matters is that regardless of which definition you use, it doesn't lead to a good objection against my argument, as I tried to show. If it's "the ability to do anything, even if it's logically impossible", then the theist can respond by saying god's doing the logically impossible by existing despite proof that he doesn't. If it's "having all powers", well there can be no such thing as the power to do the logically absurd so omnipotence is still maintained.
Sometimes I wonder if you don't just like arguing.
But just out of curiosity, what meaning of omnipotence are you using?:
having unlimited power;
able to do anything;
all-powerful;
almighty;
supreme;
most high;
preeminent;
dictatorial;
despotic;
totalitarian;
autocratic;
invincible;
unconquerable
Doesn't really matter. What matters is that regardless of which definition you use, it doesn't lead to a good objection against my argument, as I tried to show. If it's "the ability to do anything, even if it's logically impossible", then the theist can respond by saying god's doing the logically impossible by existing despite proof that he doesn't. If it's "having all powers", well there can be no such thing as the power to do the logically absurd so omnipotence is still maintained.
true.
If we are basing a things existence on "blind faith", and not observations, they can make up anything they want.
I am not so sure what the objection is? past they are making things up?
Oh for Pete's sake! All the Omni's are human creations in an effort to define a being WORTHY of being our God. They are nothing more than that - human hubris writ large!
I love this argument mystic.
"it has to be this or that".
what don't they understand that with the information we have (more precisely what we don't have) we can't say it is either black or its white.
But, if we assume they are smart enough to process the "its inbetween" why would they pin us down to yes or no?
its simple.
How would anti-religion answer?
how would "my-religion-only answer?
how would a person that really doesn't care answer about the truth other than getting it the best we can answer?
its not that raf. we don't have a statement of belief about religion (like "bad religion") that we have to live up to so that we are saved.
we have the problems with religion to deal with.
we have the problem of how to properly evaluate a claim to deal with.
And finally we have to describe how the universe works. Openly and honestly.
we don't have to filter our answers threw "bad religion boogeyman" and/or "my-religion-only". We only have to try and be honest, open, and agenda free.
Since you don't understand "Doesn't matter", let's go with "all-powerful".
Vic earlier: "even an omnipotent being could be "limited""
Vic now: "all-powerful"
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