Racism and the christian church (grace, gospel, worship, faith)
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I am of Dutch descent and come from an area settled by the Dutch: Bergen County, in the northeast corner of NJ, west across the Hudson from Manhattan Island on which lay the also-Dutch colony of Nieuw Amsterdam.
Captain John Berry was made a governor of the colony of New Jersey and brought a boatload of slaves up from the Caribbean and named the area around what is now Hackensack "New Barbadoes", in the late 17th century. While the some of the Dutch decided that this slave-owning thing was a great way to have labor for their farms, as Christians they were faced with the dilemma of whether the slaves should be baptized or not, so they appealed to the Dutch Reformed Church back in The Netherlands for guidance.
The Church replied that they could indeed baptize their slaves, no Christian could hold another in bondage, so once they were baptized, they had to be freed.
It's hard to compare the church of hundreds of years ago to the church of today. The church was more like a political organization then. It's still a little like that. The common element is just the people who form the congregation. They are just the everyday people. But the politics of the organization is what most outsiders see.
It's hard to compare the church of hundreds of years ago to the church of today. The church was more like a political organization then. It's still a little like that. The common element is just the people who form the congregation. They are just the everyday people. But the politics of the organization is what most outsiders see.
Some of those everyday people in the past were slave owners. Some were not.
If slavery were still legal today, the churches would be the same way. Because people.
It's hard to compare the church of hundreds of years ago to the church of today. The church was more like a political organization then. It's still a little like that. The common element is just the people who form the congregation. They are just the everyday people. But the politics of the organization is what most outsiders see.
And that's one of our biggest complaints...churches and politics.
What's fantasy about. I provided an extensive article at the beginning this thread. You've provided mostly one liners that often do not actually respond to the thread or a specific post.
What's fantasy about. I provided an extensive article at the beginning this thread. You've provided mostly one liners that often do not actually respond to the thread or a specific post.
Opinion. A "lengthy opinion" is not proof of anything. That's all your article is. One guy making biased statements just like on this forum. You don't understand that? I've given several good points explaining this and you are just ignoring them.
yup, again true. anti-religious socialism is as bad as fascist theism. I mean look at what people post. what ideology has destroyed our school system? it wasn't religion. yes, we have to watch some religious people, but religion did not destroy our schools and erode the social structure. religion did helped, that's true enough.
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