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Old 02-06-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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Well, maybe my path includes some anger and picking apart of the old one, so stop picking that apart . And, maybe complete confidence in ones path takes more time for some than for others.
sooner or later everyone comes to their own path, but not all at once..
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Old 02-06-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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Gesundheit!
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Old 02-06-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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sooner or later everyone comes to their own path, but not all at once..
I think I agree.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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Old 02-07-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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sooner or later everyone comes to their own path, but not all at once..
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I think I agree.
And sometimes -- maybe -- a person may come to the realization that both paths, as divergent as they may seem, eventually lead to the same destination. Should that happen, be careful, because at that point everything changes. "Enemies" can become fellow travelers, "Doubters" can become teachers (or students, or both), etc.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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And sometimes -- maybe -- a person may come to the realization that both paths, as divergent as they may seem, eventually lead to the same destination. Should that happen, be careful, because at that point everything changes. "Enemies" can become fellow travelers, "Doubters" can become teachers (or students, or both), etc.
That is certainly my hope.
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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But sometimes in the process of leaving one path for another, (especially when the old path had the threat of eternal hell for leaving it built in) it takes a great deal of time to begin to trust that it is safe to go a different way. And sometimes proving the old path wrong is an effective emotional buffer against the conditioned fear. In my experience.



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If you are confident in your chosen course, you don't need to challenge the old one. 'Conditioned fear', IMO, is simply an excuse to be angry and pick apart the path that you don't like.


Just my view: But the whole point, here is it is a "new" path. The new path has not been walked on for very long, so how can there be strong roots (confidence)? Part of becoming confident in a new path, a new perspective, is looking back at the old path and seeing and pointing out the errors and learning. It has nothing to do with proving another person's path wrong. It has to do with transitioning out of the old and into the new of your own path. Burning away the dross. Growing.

Even if you see someone on an old path you used to walk on, that you now see is full of error, that path is NOT wrong for the person currently walking on it. It will not become "full of error" until THAT person is able to see it for theirselves, in their own time.

We're all in this together. There are some paths that are steeped in fear and terror and threats. These are some of the more difficult paths to walk AWAY from. I think only those who have been there, can truly understand the temporary need for an "emotional buffer against the conditioned fear".

Just some thoughts.

peace,
sparrow
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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But sometimes in the process of leaving one path for another, (especially when the old path had the threat of eternal hell for leaving it built in) it takes a great deal of time to begin to trust that it is safe to go a different way. And sometimes proving the old path wrong is an effective emotional buffer against the conditioned fear. In my experience.
Just my view: But the whole point, here is it is a "new" path. The new path has not been walked on for very long, so how can there be strong roots (confidence)? Part of becoming confident in a new path, a new perspective, is looking back at the old path and seeing and pointing out the errors and learning. It has nothing to do with proving another person's path wrong. It has to do with transitioning out of the old and into the new of your own path. Burning away the dross. Growing.
Even if you see someone on an old path you used to walk on, that you now see is full of error, that path is NOT wrong for the person currently walking on it. It will not become "full of error" until THAT person is able to see it for theirselves, in their own time.
We're all in this together. There are some paths that are steeped in fear and terror and threats. These are some of the more difficult paths to walk AWAY from. I think only those who have been there, can truly understand the temporary need for an "emotional buffer against the conditioned fear".
Just some thoughts.
peace,
sparrow
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:12 PM
 
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It has nothing to do with proving another person's path wrong. It has to do with transitioning out of the old and into the new of your own path. Burning away the dross. Growing.

Even if you see someone on an old path you used to walk on, that you now see is full of error, that path is NOT wrong for the person currently walking on it. It will not become "full of error" until THAT person is able to see it for theirselves, in their own time.

We're all in this together. There are some paths that are steeped in fear and terror and threats. These are some of the more difficult paths to walk AWAY from. I think only those who have been there, can truly understand the temporary need for an "emotional buffer against the conditioned fear".
Well-spoken. Aho.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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Sparrow, thank you.
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