The R&S Pantheism Thread (Mormon, miracle, Born Again, Buddhist)
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I (and others) are discussing and explaining their Religious Beliefs and views on this board titled "Religion & Spirituality"...you "disagree" with these Views/Beliefs by reviling people with vulgar invectives (even feces and disgusting sexual fetishes), and telling them their views are "moronic", "delusional", "desperate", "belief in fairy-tales", etc, etc, etc. You insult the Religious concepts, the Books and writings, the Deities, and the Adherents themselves for their embrace of these things by bashing it & them in the most insulting, vulgar, mocking way. That is NOT just "disagreement".
Don't "disagree" by bashing, reviling, and mocking...and I won't call that out (what you deem "personal abuse").
Would you prefer that we lie to you (as you do to/about us) and tell you your beliefs are intelligent, rational, well-considered and make sense?
It is a questioning of the argument someone is making for pantheism so it is relevant to this thread.
I should also say, I only came to this thread because that poster goes around a lot of threads and repeats their catch phrase like a faulty record. Only yesterday they were in the religion and science thread repeating their nonsense again. This thread seems to be the most appropriate to discuss their claim, instead of spamming every thread. That is why I think it is relevant
That poster has said elsewhere they want to discuss their claims in details, including making lists. They want to (or so they say).
I have said I will happily discuss it anywhere:
-In here
-Somewhere else in this forum where it is allowed by the rules
-In another forum where it is allowed by the rules
-In blog posts
-Anywhere
You see...right off, you refer to what he said you disagreed with as "nonsense"...and him emphasizing by way of repetition, "a faulty record". Not cool.
I do not view it as "nonsense"...I even linked a textbook relevant to it. And, just because you have a different assessment and/or draw a different conclusion, does not then make his assessment/conclusions "nonsense".
I recall an expression that was used at a major hospital was a contractor at.
When everything is stat, nothing is stat
Well, it seems apropos here, slightly modified
When everything is god, NOTHING is god.
In other words, Pantheism is a fraud. ...
That's an interesting point. And I guess my question would be -- if everything is god, then that means that everything bad and evil is god. Seems like an odd thing to worship.
You see...right off, you refer to what he said you disagreed with as "nonsense"...and him emphasizing by way of repetition, "a faulty record". Not cool.
I do not view it as "nonsense"...I even linked a textbook relevant to it. And, just because you have a different assessment and/or draw a different conclusion, does not then make his assessment/conclusions "nonsense".
Look, I'm not trying to convince you. You believe what you want to believe.
That's an interesting point. And I guess my question would be -- if everything is god, then that means that everything bad and evil is god. Seems like an odd thing to worship.
It is nonsensical from the get-go. A deity can't be "god" and "god's" creation at the same time.
Would you prefer that we lie to you (as you do to/about us) and tell you your beliefs are intelligent, rational, well-considered and make sense?
This is a forum titled "Religion and Spirituality"...obviously, peo?[/quote]
ple believe all kinds of things relative to Theological concepts & ideas, many that others do not agree with. That is a given, considering the subject matter.
Disagreement should be presented with respect and consideration...not insults, vulgarity, and mocking.
That is what I call out.
You believe calling out that vulgar disrespect is "personal abuse". That, in my view, is the belief that's not "intelligent, rational, well-considered and lacks sense"
This is a forum titled "Religion and Spirituality"...obviously, peo?
ple believe all kinds of things relative to Theological concepts & ideas, many that others do not agree with. That is a given, considering the subject matter.
Disagreement should be presented with respect and consideration...not insults, vulgarity, and mocking.
That is what I call out.
You believe calling out that vulgar disrespect is "personal abuse". That, in my view, is the belief that's not "intelligent, rational, well-considered and lacks sense"
Nobody has been vulgar with you. Actually, you get far more respect that you deserve, truth be told.
I'd say the same thing if you were advocating Scientology or Voo Doo or Wicca.
Your religion IS nonsense, even more so that other religions. It isn't theological. It isn't logical in any sense or meaning of the word. Rubbish, pure and simple.
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