Evidence for soul and spirit (believers, verse, exist, body)
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"it's well known"? Too christians it's well known. To most of the rest of the world it's not known at all.
And this is the problem -- the assumption something like that is "well known", with the emphasis on the word known.
Yea, that’s kinda strange...The soul is not a living being until G-d gives it life with a spirit...The soul is essentially the individual...The soul is like a CPU (brain) which controls the motherboard (body) and HD (memory storage, soul) and is useless until electricity (spirit, perhaps Human Bio-Electricity) is applied to it...
Without bio-electricity living organisms, including human beings, would not be animate...So, perhaps what we call spirit is essentially the bio-electricity within our bodies...
Without a brain we would not be able to breath, feel, manipulate our body in order to walk, run, pick up things, etc...Nor would we have the capacity to store our lifetime of memories...
Without the body there would be nothing to manipulate or store or communicate...
Yea, that’s kinda strange...The soul is not a living being until G-d gives it life with a spirit...The soul is essentially the individual...The soul is like a CPU (brain) which controls the motherboard (body) and HD (memory storage, soul) and is useless until electricity (spirit, perhaps Human Bio-Electricity) is applied to it...
Without bio-electricity living organisms, including human beings, would not be animate...So, perhaps what we call spirit is essentially the bio-electricity within our bodies...
Without a brain we would not be able to breath, feel, manipulate our body in order to walk, run, pick up things, etc...Nor would we have the capacity to store our lifetime of memories...
Without the body there would be nothing to manipulate or store or communicate...
Yea, that’s kinda strange...The soul is not a living being until G-d gives it life with a spirit...The soul is essentially the individual...The soul is like a CPU (brain) which controls the motherboard (body) and HD (memory storage, soul) and is useless until electricity (spirit, perhaps Human Bio-Electricity) is applied to it...
Without bio-electricity living organisms, including human beings, would not be animate...So, perhaps what we call spirit is essentially the bio-electricity within our bodies...
Without a brain we would not be able to breath, feel, manipulate our body in order to walk, run, pick up things, etc...Nor would we have the capacity to store our lifetime of memories...
Without the body there would be nothing to manipulate or store or communicate...
Yes. As mentioned earlier, it is a feeling or sensation. The sense that there is a being within us that is us and yet in a sense not us, and is apparently supposed to be our mentality and life -spirit and indeed survives after our death seems to be common in many cultures and is a huge part of human belief.
The question is whether it being a common experience makes it true as interpreted by us in the historical-traditional way or whether it is a human delusion (to put it bluntly without any deprecatory intent) that is not correctly understood by us, and in in fact, mythologised.
The whole question of human sensation/experience -perception has been discussed at great length (a protracted discussion on qualia) including human illusions of identity and Id emerging from instinctive perception and reaction. It's very debatable and it's an idea likely to arouse strong (if not indignant) responses from those who don't care to have their very personal sensations describes as 'chemical reactions'. But the fact is that I don't see it as at all improbable that the sensation and feeling of the spirit or soul is basically, just that.
Yes. As mentioned earlier, it is a feeling or sensation. The sense that there is a being within us that is us and yet in a sense not us, and is apparently supposed to be our mentality and life -spirit and indeed survives after our death seems to be common in many cultures and is a huge part of human belief. The question is whether it being a common experience makes it true as interpreted by us in the historical-traditional way or whether it is a human delusion (to put it bluntly without any deprecatory intent) that is not correctly understood by us, and in in fact, mythologised. The whole question of human sensation/experience -perception has been discussed at great length (a protracted discussion on qualia) including human illusions of identity and Id emerging from instinctive perception and reaction. It's very debatable and it's an idea likely to arouse strong (if not indignant) responses from those who don't care to have their very personal sensations describes as 'chemical reactions'. But the fact is that I don't see it as at all improbable that the sensation and feeling of the spirit or soul is basically, just that.
that's not a fact. that is you stating your opinion and your conjecture.
putting the word "fact" in a sentence, does not make what you are stating a "fact."
it is a fact that you are stringing together words in a sentence.
the words you are stringing together are not facts.
Yes. As mentioned earlier, it is a feeling or sensation. The sense that there is a being within us that is us and yet in a sense not us, and is apparently supposed to be our mentality and life -spirit and indeed survives after our death seems to be common in many cultures and is a huge part of human belief.
The question is whether it being a common experience makes it true as interpreted by us in the historical-traditional way or whether it is a human delusion (to put it bluntly without any deprecatory intent) that is not correctly understood by us, and in in fact, mythologised.
The whole question of human sensation/experience -perception has been discussed at great length (a protracted discussion on qualia) including human illusions of identity and Id emerging from instinctive perception and reaction. It's very debatable and it's an idea likely to arouse strong (if not indignant) responses from those who don't care to have their very personal sensations describes as 'chemical reactions'. But the fact is that I don't see it as at all improbable that the sensation and feeling of the spirit or soul is basically, just that.
AI...From my perspective, perhaps G-d created us as a Bio-Artificial intelligence, along the same lines that science can create an AI that learns and grows and can become very good or very bad, a self-willed AI...I believe that it is possible to artificially create a being that mimics all the mechanics and chemical reactions within the human body...
that's not a fact. that is you stating your opinion and your conjecture.
putting the word "fact" in a sentence, does not make what you are stating a "fact."
it is a fact that you are stringing together words in a sentence.
the words you are stringing together are not facts.
Of course. That is the only fact I am saying. What else did you think I was saying? That I maintained that my suggestions were true? I just suggest they are not improbable.
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
AI...From my perspective, perhaps G-d created us as a Bio-Artificial intelligence, along the same lines that science can create an AI that learns and grows and can become very good or very bad, a self-willed AI...I believe that it is possible to artificially create a being that mimics all the mechanics and chemical reactions within the human body...
That is not impossible. In fact, however one regards consciousness, whether popped into the head like a slot in personality program or is gradually evolved from the basic predator and prey reactions that kick- started natural selection, a god could always be behind it.
The point is that, there really isn't any good evidence for a god being behind it it, let alone any particular god.
....My question was: What is the actual evidence for the bolded?
So, what do you all think? Is there significant evidence for this? Or is this another example of confusing faith and fact?
No, there is even less evidence for a "soul" or "spirit" than there is for a creator. With the latter there is at least clear evidence of a universe, and things in that universe... which at least allows one to posit a "creator" (even if that creator is a god of the gaps). But there is zero evidence for a soul or spirit, and no reason to think these are anything other than products of the human imagination.
No, there is even less evidence for a "soul" or "spirit" than there is for a creator. With the latter there is at least clear evidence of a universe, and things in that universe... which at least allows one to posit a "creator" (even if that creator is a god of the gaps). But there is zero evidence for a soul or spirit, and no reason to think these are anything other than products of the human imagination.
Thank you for responding.
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