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Old 12-18-2020, 04:24 PM
 
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So the connections are there and we just can "ignore" them so we can function? The more we filter out the less we seem connected. So its not an over active imagination as much as its disconnecting as mauch as we can.

That makes perfect sense to me. And it matches the the observations.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:31 PM
 
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Healing, coming out of a depression, and reconnecting. Everything that had shut down reset and came firing back on all at once. My mind had to learn what I needed to pay attention to and what I could filter out. Our minds filter out a lot or you wouldn't be able to function. It was pretty awesome but also so distracting.
Thanks.
Was this something you constantly experienced, for days, before you were able to return to ‘normal’, or was more pronounced during social interaction?
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:32 PM
 
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So the connections are there and we just can "ignore" them so we can function? The more we filter out the less we seem connected. So its not an over active imagination as much as its disconnecting as mauch as we can.

That makes perfect sense to me. And it matches the the observations.
It was more sensory input and patterns. Everything was a pattern, everything interconnected, patterns layered over patterns, grids and grids of patterns. I don't need to know all that.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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I'm sure there are scammers out there but I believe most people are genuinely relating what happened to them. I think the information they give is valuable in understanding how our minds operate even though I don't agree with their conclusions about it. I think people should be encouraged to talk about it.

Here's the thing, apostate: The single biggest fact that convinces me these experiences aren't real is the fact that only like 2% of everybody who has a situation where they flatline and came near to dying ever talk about something happening to them. The vast majority of people say that when they flatlined everything just went black and time stopped. If a person lost consciousness and then was revived a half hour later that whole half hour was lost to them. It was like the lights went out and then a split-second later the lights came back on. Why do these experiences happen to just a tiny minority of people and not the other 98%? And if this is true that a tiny fraction of people experience these things and no one else, isn't it reasonable to conclude that this tiny 2% minority had a hallucination and that nothing real happened to them, especially when scientists can create these same experiences in jet pilots?
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:37 PM
 
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Here's the thing, apostate: The single biggest fact that convinces me these experiences aren't real is the fact that only like 2% of everybody who has a situation where they flatline and came near to dying ever talk about something happening to them. The vast majority of people say that when they flatlined everything just went black and time stopped. If a person lost consciousness and then was revived a half hour later that whole half hour was lost to them. It was like the lights went out and then a split-second later the lights came back on. Why do these experiences happen to just a tiny minority of people and not the other 98%? And if this is true that a tiny fraction of people experience these things and no one else, isn't it reasonable to conclude that this tiny 2% minority had a hallucination and that nothing real happened to them, especially when scientists can create these same experiences in jet pilots?
Are you aware they have a helmet that can simulate this experience? I think they call it the God Helmet. They've even been able to produce a hell experience depending on where they stimulate the brain. People that have these experiences often come backed changed.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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Are you aware they have a helmet that can simulate this experience? I think they call it the God Helmet. They've even been able to produce a hell experience depending on where they stimulate the brain. People that have these experiences often come backed changed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHCcCO1jxmg
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:42 PM
 
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It was more sensory input and patterns. Everything was a pattern, everything interconnected, patterns layered over patterns, grids and grids of patterns. I don't need to know all that.
How cool is it though.

But your experience pointed out what is actually going on.

The nay Sayers are saying there is nothing and the connections are emotional based. Your experienced shows that its actually the exact opposite. The Brian filters out the connections.

Its not that people make them up, its more about some peoples brain disconnect it all. The more the brains filters out the less connected people feel. that tells us something.

the only time we need to know is when we start telling others they are wrong with what they they think it is. Otherwise you are correct.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:43 PM
 
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Thanks.
Was this something you constantly experienced, for days, before you were able to return to ‘normal’, or was more pronounced during social interaction?
A couple of days. I finally had to tell my brain to look for the color white. As soon as I gave it something to focus on it came back. I'm sure it was trying to adapt but that direction to focus speeded it up.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:46 PM
 
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How cool is it though.

But your experience pointed out what is actually going on.

The nay Sayers are saying there is nothing and the connections are emotional based. Your experienced shows that its actually the exact opposite. The Brian filters out the connections.

Its not that people make them up, its more about some peoples brain disconnect it all. The more the brains filters out the less connected people feel. that tells us something.

the only time we need to know is when we start telling others they are wrong with what they they think it is. Otherwise you are correct.
I think it pointed out how my brain sees the world at a base level. Everything was some sort of rectangle. I noticed the bathroom I redid before this happened I chose rectangles in grid patterns. My brain may just like that.
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Old 12-18-2020, 04:46 PM
 
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they also did it with light and the helmet. one person looking at a light and the second person saw a light. not in the same detail, but they saw it.

I remember saying in high school that they will change what you think if they have the right magnetic field applied.
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