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Old 07-08-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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Okay, that is fine, but a few points. You ARE most-definitely biased against non-belief and non-believers.


Also, do you know anyone at all with an attitude that is NOT biased, and is such a thing even possible. After all that is what an attitude is - a bias in favor of, a particular point a view, which necessarily must include a bias against others.


Also, nobody is burning anyone at the stake, this is just a debate, nothing more. If your beliefs are that insecure, then perhaps you should move on to more-sheltered waters.


Aloha,


Salts
No more true or false than you salty.

The trick is how do we know who is just trying to do the best they can with what we have and those that have an agenda?
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:23 PM
 
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No more true or false than you salty.

The trick is how do we know who is just trying to do the best they can with what we have and those that have an agenda?
Thank you.


Do you know anyone withOUT an agenda? Some are benign (such as mine), others, not-so-much.


It's just a forum, NOT real-life.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Okay, that is fine, but a few points. You ARE most-definitely biased against non-belief and non-believers.


Also, do you know anyone at all with an attitude that is NOT biased, and is such a thing even possible. After all that is what an attitude is - a bias in favor of, a particular point a view, which necessarily must include a bias against others.


Also, nobody is burning anyone at the stake, this is just a debate, nothing more. If your beliefs are that insecure, then perhaps you should move on to more-sheltered waters.


...
Bias is such a natural thing, that I presume it in most opinions by everyone.

The good point you make here is that this is just a debate. I remember so many bible school stories about the great suffering of the early christians. Things like 3,000 Christian martyrs dying in the Colosseum, not to mention good old crucifixion. And then there's the debates here. LOL. Perhaps there should be an 11th commandment: Remember that sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you (and after all, the most powerful being in the history of the universe is on your side and protecting you).
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:52 PM
 
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Thank you.


Do you know anyone withOUT an agenda? Some are benign (such as mine), others, not-so-much.


It's just a forum, NOT real-life.
you don't come off as benign. You come off as on the defensive. Like you are not totally convinced yourself.

Salty, just let your commonsense lead the way. atheism and theism is unimportant. You don't answer to either of them.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:55 PM
 
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Bias is such a natural thing, that I presume it in most opinions by everyone.

The good point you make here is that this is just a debate. I remember so many bible school stories about the great suffering of the early christians. Things like 3,000 Christian martyrs dying in the Colosseum, not to mention good old crucifixion. And then there's the debates here. LOL. Perhaps there should be an 11th commandment: Remember that sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you (and after all, the most powerful being in the history of the universe is on your side and protecting you).
lmao ... And you do not want to explore who is doing what. Especially if it gets in the way of fight religion.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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lmao ... And you do not want to explore who is doing what. Especially if it gets in the way of fight religion.
No thank you.
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Old 07-08-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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I wouldn't have pointed back to a post where my topic was a plucked chicken.
It's an old explanation of mine...going back over 10 years.
Put up in many ways, many times: https://www.city-data.com/forum/48256273-post229.html
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Old 07-08-2021, 08:28 PM
 
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No thank you.
lmao ... that might be the first real honest answer you ever gave.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Germany
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Yes! Preach the News of Atheism!
All the praise & glory to NOGODAH!
Bashing and mocking those who do not share your beliefs. How ironic.
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Old 07-09-2021, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Some Atheists are the most prolific proselytizers for their Nonbelief Ideology as any I've ever seen for any theology.
They "thump" it just as hard as any ever...and the interweb & forums like this are their version of going door-to-door.
Just look at some here...they are pretty much Atheist versions of Fred Phelps, only more disrespectful, insulting, and nasty toward differing beliefs than him.
Atheism is a response to religious claims, so if the religious did not use the internet to spread lies and misinformation, we would not need to respond. All you are saying is any religious woo goes, but atheists should just be quiet, because you are so tweaked that we can rationally show the problems of religions. There is a cure for that, get better evidence.

And you are free to quote any posts of people who are more disrespectful, insulting, and nasty toward differing beliefs. But, it must be a first post that is more disrespectful, insulting, and nasty toward differing beliefs. Not a response to fundamentalism, not a response to childish idiots who start fights they can not handle, an actual initial post that is simply just more disrespectful, insulting, and nasty toward differing beliefs.

Because if you can not post the data, that means you are inventing facts just to bash, insult, and rail against atheists.
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