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My problem with this is you are comparing how life is now (too complex and sophisticated) with how it was then.
I considered this as well, taking into account the evolutionary stages of man for instance. Yet I believe some sort of pre-programmed/coded/etc. material that was formed by an intelligence yet unknown to us gave evolution its initial start. Evolutionary steps are secondary to this hypothesis IMO.
I considered this as well, taking into account the evolutionary stages of man for instance. Yet I believe some sort of pre-programmed/coded/etc. material that was formed by an intelligence yet unknown to us gave evolution its initial start. Evolutionary steps are secondary to this hypothesis IMO.
Look at a baby being formed in humans. Remove the mother (you don't know she's there or not) and watch the process.
Its looks like its preprogrammed. We know she didn't program it ... but she aint nothing either.
I considered this as well, taking into account the evolutionary stages of man for instance. Yet I believe some sort of pre-programmed/coded/etc. material that was formed by an intelligence yet unknown to us gave evolution its initial start. Evolutionary steps are secondary to this hypothesis IMO.
To discuss this more would be going into the science, but thank you for disagreeing without ranting, something others here seem to have a problem with.
My recent second look at the Kabbalah has convinced me He was a very advanced Jewish Mystic.
You've surprised me again.
I know you are a Christian. I'd have thought you bought into the whole son of god thing. You think Jesus was just a regular human albeit an advanced one?
Here we are 10 years into this and you learn new things about people.
You've surprised me again.
I know you are a Christian. I'd have thought you bought into the whole son of god thing. You think Jesus was just a regular human albeit an advanced one?
Here we are 10 years into this and you learn new things about people.
Oh, He is the Son of God, Cruithne, no doubt about that, IMO. We are all supposed to be God's children. He is just the perfect one who did what the rest of us seem unable to achieve - perfect resonance (Identity) with God's Holy Spirit (consciousness). That would at least underscore the notion that He is indeed the Firstborn Son of God among humans.
I'm a B because I know God .... I look at the body parts of even people and the brain and the complex liver organ and don't believe that the mindless nature could have come up with that
To be honest, even as a person with two degrees in geology, I used to think like that (although in my case I thought about it in terms of the eye). Later, however, I began to think a little differently. Why did it take god so long to go from stromatolites to a modern life form. Did he just keep screwing up? Did he keep saying, "Back to the drawing board"? That doesn't seem very all-knowing and all-powerful.
Intelligence not agreeing with making errors is a western way of thinking. Many great thinkers from the east would say that errors lead to new understanding, and that it would be better to attempt much and fail much (and learn much), than attempt little and have the easy and perfect life, appearing superficially wise and powerful.
Someone like Abraham Lincoln could be considered an intelligent person, but made many mistakes on his way up the ladder of accomplishment and growth. The same can be said of countless other persons from around the world and over time. You gain most from the observation and effort put in, not the measure of your results. Americans love to belittle people and throw stones based on only end results, and never give a moment into seeing all the rest that has been involved. It's a narrow, shallow, and limited way of seeing. Just another example of "See little, know little".
I'm of the opinion that God has changed his approach over time. Dinosaurs? Yeah, around and carrying on, but perhaps not the ideal way to go, so taking an exit. The old vengeful and domineering God of the OT? That could only go on for so long until a totally different approach was needed (the relaxed and mutual friend in the form of Jesus). Look around the universe, and the constant you'll see is change.
Intelligence not agreeing with making errors is a western way of thinking. Many great thinkers from the east would say that errors lead to new understanding, and that it would be better to attempt much and fail much (and learn much), than attempt little and have the easy and perfect life, appearing superficially wise and powerful.
Someone like Abraham Lincoln could be considered an intelligent and person, but made many mistakes on his way up the ladder of accomplishment and growth.
I'm of the opinion that God has changed his approach over time. Dinosaurs? Yeah, around and carrying on, but perhaps not the ideal way to go, so taking an exit. The old vengeful and domineering God of the OT? That could only go on for so long until a totally different approach was needed (the relaxed and mutual friend in the form of Jesus).
For some thor this isn't about matching a belief to what we see. Its about the word god.
I have on poster that is really accusing me of not being an atheist because I look at god traits and don't just answer to atheism "no god". They treat it like dogma. That's not about evaluation as much as its about what they want to be real.
militants: they see the word "god" and your wrong.
fundy theist: if its not "My" god, you are wrong.
I'm not arguing for the existence of God. Sure, others won't see that or agree. That's fine with me. I'll admit that I inject some personal spiritual conversation amongst more broad matters that we all would have in common. Just showing how that would tie in. Those discussions could be tuned out if completely unrelatable.
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