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Old 10-07-2021, 10:41 AM
 
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When was the OT written, and who wrote it, if you know?
It was written by unknown people at various unknown times. The only one I know that we can date is Daniel, written between 167 BC and 164 BC.

There is a theory that the first 5 books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) were written after 400 BC, but the history of the OT is not something I have seriously studied, so I can not say how sound that theory is.
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Old 10-07-2021, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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When was the OT written, and who wrote it, if you know?
God wrote it with his own hands! Didn't you know that?
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Old 10-07-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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God wrote it with his own hands! Didn't you know that?
Must have..........forgotten!!
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Old 10-07-2021, 02:42 PM
 
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It was written by unknown people at various unknown times. The only one I know that we can date is Daniel, written between 167 BC and 164 BC.

There is a theory that the first 5 books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) were written after 400 BC, but the history of the OT is not something I have seriously studied, so I can not say how sound that theory is.
Thx.
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Old 10-07-2021, 04:43 PM
 
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No, it didn't. Johovah God doesn't exist.

The bible and all other religious books are fiction, pure and simple. The facts of nature, as compared to the fiction of these books demonstrates that clearly and unambiguously.
Then why would you question the thoughts and conduct of Jehovah God, if he doesn't exist?
Even very specific things...like how he dealt with Adam & Eve, etc. Big, long diatribes getting into specific details of actions and attitude ...questioning motive & performance.
Very strange...that doesn't make sense.
Nonexistent Beings don't think or do anything.
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Old 10-07-2021, 09:39 PM
 
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Then why would you question the thoughts and conduct of Jehovah God, if he doesn't exist?
Even very specific things...like how he dealt with Adam & Eve, etc. Big, long diatribes getting into specific details of actions and attitude ...questioning motive & performance.
Very strange...that doesn't make sense.
Nonexistent Beings don't think or do anything.
When I do the things you have noted, I am using a rhetorical device, just as Playing Devil's Advocate is a rhetorical device, to demonstrate how illogical, indeed absurd, and hence improbable, the existence of a "god" is.


We have discussed this before, and I am surprised you are still confused. Oh well.


You are correct in one thing. Nonexistent Beings, especially Nonexistent gods, don't think or do anything. At least that has finally sunk in, if, possibly, only partially. But what-the-heck, progress is progress, baby-steps included.


Salt-on my friend.
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Old 10-08-2021, 06:33 AM
 
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When I do the things you have noted, I am using a rhetorical device, just as Playing Devil's Advocate is a rhetorical device, to demonstrate how illogical, indeed absurd, and hence improbable, the existence of a "god" is.


We have discussed this before, and I am surprised you are still confused. Oh well.


You are correct in one thing. Nonexistent Beings, especially Nonexistent gods, don't think or do anything. At least that has finally sunk in, if, possibly, only partially. But what-the-heck, progress is progress, baby-steps included.


Salt-on my friend.
No...I'm not confused...not at all.
I just figured that one who feels that the Books are all "fiction" and the characters are all nonexistent...would just say that. Period...The End.
Not get into long, drawn out rhetoric, that in my view is completely obsessive/compulsive, and presents to me as insulting/mocking towards those that embrace differing Spiritual concepts.
But...to each their own, I guess.
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Old 10-08-2021, 09:54 AM
 
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No...I'm not confused...not at all.
I just figured that one who feels that the Books are all "fiction" and the characters are all nonexistent...would just say that. Period...The End.
Not get into long, drawn out rhetoric, that in my view is completely obsessive/compulsive, and presents to me as insulting/mocking towards those that embrace differing Spiritual concepts.
But...to each their own, I guess.
Do you think that telling a non-believer or a believer in a different faith that they are going to hell is "completely obsessive/compulsive, and presents to me as insulting/mocking towards those that embrace differing Spiritual concept"?
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Old 10-08-2021, 09:55 AM
 
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No...I'm not confused...not at all.
I just figured that one who feels that the Books are all "fiction" and the characters are all nonexistent...would just say that. Period...The End.
Not get into long, drawn out rhetoric, that in my view is completely obsessive/compulsive, and presents to me as insulting/mocking towards those that embrace differing Spiritual concepts.
But...to each their own, I guess.
No one is confused here! Not at all...

There seems to be just a little confusion about why that is, while we all certainly don't think, feel or believe the same things for the same reasons, but no matter. Just ask anyone in this forum. Especially a select few of the aware ones. They'll tell you all you need to know about what you are confused about! Be prepared to leave all facts, reason, logic and all other than personal feelings and experiences at the door...
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No one is confused here! Not at all...

There seems to be just a little confusion about why that is, while we all certainly don't think, feel or believe the same things for the same reasons, but no matter. Just ask anyone in this forum. Especially a select few of the aware ones. They'll tell you all you need to know about what you are confused about! Be prepared to leave all facts, reason, logic and all other than personal feelings and experiences at the door...
It's always been interesting to me how quick the faithful can be to tell a non-believer that they are "confused". It's actually quite the opposite.
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