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Old 10-10-2021, 04:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GldnRule View Post
The embrace of Religion is growing in this world...Atheism is shrinking.
That comports with Reality & observations...and is TRUTH and FACT.
Your reality and observations, no doubt. But real world? Not so sure.



But that is neither here nor there.



Truth is not determined by how many people believe a lie, which seems to be essence of what you are saying, (i.e. that belief in god MUST be true because the number of Kool-Aid guzzlers is growing).


With that having been said,


I remain,


Yours in Salt
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:25 PM
 
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lmao salty ... nice try ...

Try and not to attack me ... attack the belief.

Yes, producing a new study that over turns and old one is important. E=mc^2 is over 100 years old. Asking why I picked a formula that is so old is stupid.

Please, salty, don't be like your run of mill fundy theist. Do try and show me that I am right about you.
Nice, but failed, deflection.
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:29 PM
 
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deity is small potatoes salty. You sure did show them that nobody died and rose ...lmao ... like beating up on girls. Real tough.

How about "none's that believe we are part of a larger more complex system" trump the cowards that can't say anything but "there is no deity and I don't have to say anything else."
Having never said anything but mindless drivel, you stand trumped.


I have to ask, are you deliberately trying to make a nuisance out of your posts, or are you going to want, at some future point, to engage in meaningful dialog. I'm open, but doubtful.
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:30 PM
 
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yeah ... so what ...

believers in something will always out number "I don't have to say anything" and "lets not talk about anything but how religion is so bad" types.

Belief in some thing more just matches what we see better phet ...

Its that simple ... and it is not complicated ...

and you avoiding doesn't change that for anybody but you. And in fact, the very act of avoiding like you do is all we need to know ... "religion-ist" mind sets need to hide some observations or their "crusade", and yours is no better than the middle evil ones, will fail.

Shun like a JW phet ... make them proud ...
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:37 PM
 
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Having never said anything but mindless drivel, you stand trumped.


I have to ask, are you deliberately trying to make a nuisance out of your posts, or are you going to want, at some future point, to engage in meaningful dialog. I'm open, but doubtful.
Salty, the nuisance is that you have to avoid is basing a claim on the over all best claim we have then build up from there.

The simple fact my man is that we are part of a larger more complex system. It formed us, defines us, and ultimately predicts almost every move. We will act human, as a group. And if we know enough about the individual we can predict their next move in the near future to a fair degree.

Meaningful dialog to you is bashing belief in a deity. I never believed in one. I am not controlled by people that do.

Do you have anything else on how the universe works without always answering to a no-deity dogma that you were told to follow?
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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Nice, but failed, deflection.
salty, the only deflection is that you only answer to theist. I don't. You start with "I hate theist beliefs", I start at the periodic table.

Put your money where your mouth is ...

Can you give me something in the way actual observation that tells me we are not part of a larger more complex system that defines us.
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:50 PM
 
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I said (and showed info for) the gain of Religion in THE WORLD.
That your info only considers a outlier to the standard, that accounts for only 5% of the total 7+ billion people, is demonstrative that you have no legit counter to the TRUTH and FACTS OF REALITY that bother you so much.
I just posted 4 articles with more recent data, and made no claim whatsoever.
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Old 10-10-2021, 04:57 PM
 
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I just posted 4 articles with more recent data, and made no claim whatsoever.
Well, we know why you don't make any claims ... lmao ... its that science training you have ...

Can you show us data about worlds religions, as a whole, shrinking.

Then, can you show that belief in some thing "more', what ever that means to people, is shrinking?

Other wise it appears that belief is growing.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:47 PM
 
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Your reality and observations, no doubt. But real world? Not so sure.

But that is neither here nor there.

Truth is not determined by how many people believe a lie, which seems to be essence of what you are saying, (i.e. that belief in god MUST be true because the number of Kool-Aid guzzlers is growing).

With that having been said,

I remain,

Yours in Salt
I did not suggest the veracity of all Theological Concepts could be substantiated by a ad Populum argument.
I was just noting the World Wide trends on Religion and Atheism, as researched by experts.
Religion is growing & Atheism is declining...that's what is TRUE. Like it or not.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:56 PM
 
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I did not suggest the veracity of all Theological Concepts could be substantiated by a ad Populum argument.
I was just noting the World Wide trends on Religion and Atheism, as researched by experts.
Religion is growing & Atheism is declining...that's what is TRUE. Like it or not.
Understood.

I agree that the promise of eternal life is a powerful opiate.

I am saddened that mankind just can't
summon the courage to kick the addiction.

Saltily yours,

Salty
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