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Treat others the way you want to be treated. That seems pretty simple to me. Of course I can get all esoteric about it but if I get busy treating others the way I want to be treated, I don't have a whole lot of time left over for navel gazing.
Platitudes have their place and work upto a point. Life is more complex than that. Jesus also said when injured by someone turn the other cheek. That is an immense shift from the the first one and it is no platitude. You don’t hear it often. Because it requires more thought and effort, an interior adjustment before you can do that. That old navel gazing. An examined life is worth the time.
Treat others the way you want to be treated. That seems pretty simple to me. Of course I can get all esoteric about it but if I get busy treating others the way I want to be treated, I don't have a whole lot of time left over for navel gazing.
It can be simple, or one can make it complicated. My Mother is an example, she simply goes to church, and leaves things like theology to the theologians.
It can be simple, or one can make it complicated. My Mother is an example, she simply goes to church, and leaves things like theology to the theologians.
What does simply go to church mean? Just show up to be seen? Theology and attending church do not mix somehow? Theologians dont go to church?
Harry, you make no sense.
What does simply go to church mean? Just show up to be seen? Theology and attending church do not mix somehow?
She goes to church for the same reasons other Christians go to church, because she believes in the Christian god, to sing and to pray. But she has no interest in the theological arguments such as the Trinity.
The concept is not that difficult to understand for most people.
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Theologians dont go to church?
Whether they go to church is irrelevant to what my mother does.
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Harry, you make no sense.
Your inability to understand simple concepts may be due to increased blood pressure in your neck from constant navel gazing.
It can be simple, or one can make it complicated. My Mother is an example, she simply goes to church, and leaves things like theology to the theologians.
That is more than enough as long as she loves God and each other every day and repents when she fails, IMO.
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Platitudes have their place and work up to a point. Life is more complex than that. Jesus also said when injured by someone turn the other cheek. That is an immense shift from the first one and it is no platitude. You don’t hear it often. Because it requires more thought and effort, an interior adjustment before you can do that. That old navel-gazing. An examined life is worth the time.
As Meerkat keeps reminding me, we all have different spirits and spiritual needs. For many, the belief in God is enough without all the specifics or leaving the specifics to those who think they're capable of knowing them. Unfortunately, that gives power to those delineating the specifics and power can and does lead to abuses.
Platitudes have their place and work upto a point. Life is more complex than that. Jesus also said when injured by someone turn the other cheek. That is an immense shift from the the first one and it is no platitude. You don’t hear it often. Because it requires more thought and effort, an interior adjustment before you can do that. That old navel gazing. An examined life is worth the time.
I'm all about contemplating but not over real actions and real values, all day every day. That generally keeps me pretty busy.
That is more than enough as long as she loves God and each other every day and repents when she fails, IMO.
As Meerkat keeps reminding me, we all have different spirits and spiritual needs. For many, the belief in God is enough without all the specifics or leaving the specifics to those who think they're capable of knowing them. Unfortunately, that gives power to those delineating the specifics and power can and does lead to abuses.
whatever reason mom goes to church it is upto her what is good enough or not. not for Harry or Mystic to decide. as a side note this smacks of sexism whether you are aware or not. same reason why women were barred from being ordained or allowed to preach.
as for ceding power to others to interpret, that is willful submission. you an go straight to the text and learn to interpret. or not.
but make g a decision to keep it simple because it works for you is not a good enough reason to berate others who want to understand. and what that is is complex. philosophy is complex. anything worth knowing is complex. as is life itself.
My Mother is an example, she simply goes to church, and leaves things like theology to the theologians.
regarding view expressed in post above
as a mother of three adult sons
i can assure you that they don't have a clue or an inkling of much of what i do, think, feel, explore, deem important, or am knowledgeable about.
i find the view expressed in post above to be condescending, but i also think in general that often adult children don't have a clue about who their parents are as people, as individuals, what goes on in their head and in their heart, or the things they have dealt with in their life, and continue to deal with in their daily life.
whatever reason mom goes to church it is upto her what is good enough or not. not for Harry or Mystic to decide. as a side note this smacks of sexism whether you are aware or not. same reason why women were barred from being ordained or allowed to preach.
as for ceding power to others to interpret, that is willful submission. you an go straight to the text and learn to interpret. or not.
but make g a decision to keep it simple because it works for you is not a good enough reason to berate others who want to understand. and what that is is complex. philosophy is complex. anything worth knowing is complex. as is life itself.
I don't see any sexism here. I had plenty of male relatives and have known other men who went to church for what appears to be the same level of thinking. I don't see whether a person is male or female affects this much.
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