What is Religion? Question for practitioners (Muslim, sunday, scripture, best)
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What does it say on the federal government's money? "In God we trust".
What does the Pledge Of Allegiance say? "One nation under god".
What do sessions of the Senate and House begin with? A prayer by a religious figure.
What do presidents often say at the end of speeches? "God bless the United States Of America".
This ^^^ is the prima facie that we are a Abrahamic Nation.
But, then, those dealing with the facts on the ground already knew that.
Because if there really was a "wall of separation" there would be none of that.
This is one of the things Religion is...the most powerful and influential elective concept in human history.
Even powerful governments bow to it.
but the view from the top of the mountain is the same for anyone who reaches the top and can see the view. the view from the top of the mountain includes the recognition that the many different paths lead to the same destination.
Are you claiming to be at the top of the mountain?
If yes, how do you know you are not deluding yourself`
If not, how do you know the view from the top of the mountain includes the recognition that the many different paths lead to the same destination?
Are you claiming to be at the top of the mountain? If yes, how do you know you are not deluding yourself` If not, how do you know the view from the top of the mountain includes the recognition that the many different paths lead to the same destination?
for any mountain, the top is the same, regardless of what path a person took to get there.
that is a property of mountains.
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 11-07-2022 at 12:38 AM..
No, it's not rhetoric, because it gets to whether she is talking about what is at the mountaintop, and whether that is based on an actual experience or a hunch about what one will find there. She has talked about it over a period of years, and it is time for her to be specific about her 'belief'. Or is it a 'fact'? Or an opinion?
No, it's not rhetoric, because it gets to whether she is talking about what is at the mountaintop, and whether that is based on an actual experience or a hunch about what one will find there. She has talked about it over a period of years, and it is time for her to be specific about her 'belief'. Or is it a 'fact'? Or an opinion?
It is belief based on internal experience and understanding. That is Religion’s essential aspect. Everything else is construct based on culture, geography, time, people and their needs, all those different paths. Experience and realization and enlightenment are all in the mountain top. All this is metaphorical. Cannot be obtained by running up a mountain to its summit.
regarding question asked in bold above, it includes that recognition. the recognition of "many paths one mountain"
a Buddhist resource puts it this way, "In Buddhism, we respect other religions and other religious traditions. There are many paths to the top of a mountain, and Buddhism is one path. Once you get to the top of the mountain you can appreciate the other paths that you could have taken to the top. Buddhism does not claim to be the only path or the only true path."
a person verifies for themself the validity of this by walking their own path of religion and spirituality. the view from the top of a mountain is the same regardless of what path a person used to climb the mountain.
it is safe to say that bold below is not what is found at or near the top of the mountain.
though it describes the terrain of a person's own individual scenery and mindset what they currently see on their path. The view on the trail, the view on the path, the thorny underbrush, are very different from the view at the top of a mountain.
a person can stay in the thorny underbrush, a person can say walking up the mountain is a waste of time, a person can say there is no mountain, a person can ask someone to describe the view instead of validating it for themself. we have free choice in all of this.
Thank you. Your description or answer is not lost on me, but more in terms I prefer, I'd say there are many "paths to the top of the mountain," which I would further define or clarify as the paths toward the truth. The truth, understanding, and a state of well being, peace. In this respect, I don't see all religions as equals in terms of achieving that end or reaching the top of that mountain. Even if they all did provide a worthy roadmap to the top, all religious people certainly don't necessarily represent or achieve what I would consider sufficient ascent, but of course everyone has a way of thinking they are enjoying whatever elevations they think they have achieved.
Call those elevations knowledge, spirituality, awareness, enlightenment. I don't see any good evidence that some people who claim a place at the top of the mountain or even on the way there are actually where they think they are. In part this is why I tend to avoid the term enlightenment to describe myself, because again I find that sort of thing somewhat bumptious.
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