How to feed the soul, or whatever you want to call it. (Revelation, consecration)
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You are badly mistaken. We are supposed to be Christ like in all ways.
You can't stand to be wrong about anything. There is no one personality type. Period. If Jesus was an extrovert that does not mean that people who are introverts are sinning or that they do not exhibit the character of Christ insofar as anyone can do so.
As he's generally regarded as fully human yet without sin, he has generally been portrayed as the perfect human specimen. But it is a basic principle that anything optimized for X is de-optimized for Y. I am optimized to write computer software, which directly and indirectly de-optimizes me for writing love sonnets or performing feats of athleticism.
So Jesus I think ends up being the perfect god-man (if you don't look too closely anyway) which is a singleton with no precedent, so I would think rather hard to assess.
But even Jesus could be hangry and irritable (cursing the fig tree) or violent (scourging the temple), which is a problem for proponents of Meek and Mild Jesus. Or he could hang out with "sinners" (the woman caught in adultery) or give away Free Stuff (feeding of the 5,000), which is uncomfortable for fundamentalists.
All considered, I think this business of people trying to "imitate Christ" is more "pick a version of Christ to imitate". There are SO many.
I'm not sure that I would agree that you can only be really good or talented at only one thing which is what I'm taking you to mean. But then again, there are people who aren't much good at anything. Sadly, I seem to be one of them.
You can't stand to be wrong about anything. There is no one personality type. Period. If Jesus was an extrovert that does not mean that people who are introverts are sinning or that they do not exhibit the character of Christ insofar as anyone can do so.
Maybe you are the one who doesn't want to admit you are wrong.
We are supposed to be Christ like, transformed into his image.
Being Christ like is about what we do though and how we think.
Jesus tells us what to do and what to think.
However, Jesus didn't come to get married and have kids, and he doesn't say we can't.
Jesus spent some time as a carpenter, but to be Christ like doesn't mean we have to be a carpenter too.
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What I mean is, I am not interested in the current trend of church as a source of entertainment, and arm waiving to show how devout they are.
Aw, you don't think people should show themselves as worshipers by singing and dancing and lifting hands in prayer?
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Originally Posted by gentlearts
I just want peacefulness, pews with cushions, an organist, a doctor of divinity preaching, and a choir singing traditional hymns.
Are you a Catholic? lol There is more solemness during Catholic mass than other churches.
As he's generally regarded as fully human yet without sin, he has generally been portrayed as the perfect human specimen. But it is a basic principle that anything optimized for X is de-optimized for Y. I am optimized to write computer software, which directly and indirectly de-optimizes me for writing love sonnets or performing feats of athleticism.
So Jesus I think ends up being the perfect god-man (if you don't look too closely anyway) which is a singleton with no precedent, so I would think rather hard to assess.
But even Jesus could be hangry and irritable (cursing the fig tree) or violent (scourging the temple), which is a problem for proponents of Meek and Mild Jesus. Or he could hang out with "sinners" (the woman caught in adultery) or give away Free Stuff (feeding of the 5,000), which is uncomfortable for fundamentalists.
All considered, I think this business of people trying to "imitate Christ" is more "pick a version of Christ to imitate". There are SO many.
Everything Jesus said and did was a teaching moment. All the sinners Jesus hung around with, he told them to stop sinning.
Being Christ like is about what we do though and how we think.
Jesus tells us what to do and what to think.
However, Jesus didn't come to get married and have kids, and he doesn't say we can't.
Jesus spent some time as a carpenter, but to be Christ like doesn't mean we have to be a carpenter too.
Aw, you don't think people should show themselves as worshipers by singing and dancing and lifting hands in prayer?
Are you a Catholic? lol There is more solemness during Catholic mass than other churches.
No I do not. I find it creepy, and no I am not Catholic.
I'm not sure that I would agree that you can only be really good or talented at only one thing which is what I'm taking you to mean. But then again, there are people who aren't much good at anything. Sadly, I seem to be one of them.
No, not one thing. That wasn't my core point. I'm good at a lot of things, not good at a lot of things. Each of the things I have concentrated on making myself exceptional at, has been at the expense of being below average on one or more other things I COULD have concentrated on. Of course personal interest and inherent strengths enter into it -- that is why we gravitate toward our core competencies, because they are easier to master that way.
The way I look at it is that everyone has a personal "budget" of energy, time, interest, curiosity and intelligence to divide up among any number of competencies ... but it is finite, so if you only have enough budget to do one thing I guess theoretically that could happen. But most of us have enough to spread around on several things, it's just a question of which ones.
If we theorize based on Christian theology that Jesus had an unlimited "budget", then he would be an exception of sorts to my rule. But even he, by subjecting himself to human limitations, had only so much time and stamina at the very least. And we know from the fig tree affair and other anecdotes that he was subject to hunger and thirst and weariness.
No, not one thing. That wasn't my core point. I'm good at a lot of things, not good at a lot of things. Each of the things I have concentrated on making myself exceptional at, has been at the expense of being below average on one or more other things I COULD have concentrated on. Of course personal interest and inherent strengths enter into it -- that is why we gravitate toward our core competencies, because they are easier to master that way.
The way I look at it is that everyone has a personal "budget" of energy, time, interest, curiosity and intelligence to divide up among any number of competencies ... but it is finite, so if you only have enough budget to do one thing I guess theoretically that could happen. But most of us have enough to spread around on several things, it's just a question of which ones.
If we theorize based on Christian theology that Jesus had an unlimited "budget", then he would be an exception of sorts to my rule. But even he, by subjecting himself to human limitations, had only so much time and stamina at the very least. And we know from the fig tree affair and other anecdotes that he was subject to hunger and thirst and weariness.
Got it. And I agree.
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There is no one personality type. Period. If Jesus was an extrovert that does not mean that people who are introverts are sinning or that they do not exhibit the character of Christ insofar as anyone can do so.
