How to feed the soul, or whatever you want to call it. (Revelations, spirits)
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I'm 65. Given the question plenty of consideration and thought ever since I was once a believer at a young age. I think I do know where I'm going after this life, but that's not a decision left up to me. That is what it is for you, me and everyone else regardless. No different for any of us. I don't feel any need to know or do otherwise in any case. I'm quite happy living my life and dealing with what is within my control and leaving the rest to unfold such as it will. I have no concerns or fears about any of my decisions or conclusions along these lines. It's been a very long time since I was anything close to what some people call "god fearing."
65 here too, and 100% of the available evidence points to oblivion. Which I am fine with. In fact, I embrace it.
My quality of life is far better than it ever was as a Christian, in quality terms -- peace of mind, self awareness, empathy, character, quality of relationships, are all better.
65 here too, and 100% of the available evidence points to oblivion. Which I am fine with. In fact, I embrace it.
My quality of life is far better than it ever was as a Christian, in quality terms -- peace of mind, self awareness, empathy, character, quality of relationships, are all better.
I figure you can claim oblivion as your total sum if you want. While it doesn't flow with your second paragraph.
According to your claim the harvested temporal food people eat has no life to share or offer.
The fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, had no life to share. And after it had been eaten God pointed to the birth of a child. And the word, that mankind does not live on bread alone, but from every word that comes from God.
Last edited by chief scum; 12-15-2022 at 08:34 AM..
I figure you can claim oblivion as your total sum if you want. While it doesn't flow with your second paragraph.
According to your claim the harvested temporal food people eat has no life to share or offer.
The fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, had no life to share. And after it had been eaten God pointed to the birth of a child. And the word, that mankind does not live on bread alone, but from every word that comes from God.
Flows plenty well enough for me, and/or I'm having a good deal of trouble "connecting the dots" as you seem inclined to do...
All of us, religious and non-religious, should well realize by now that the way of thinking prevalent among religious people is just not the same as those who are not, and that difference is for the most part impossible to reconcile in any logical or intelligent way.
I figure you can claim oblivion as your total sum if you want. While it doesn't flow with your second paragraph.
According to your claim the harvested temporal food people eat has no life to share or offer.
The fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, had no life to share. And after it had been eaten God pointed to the birth of a child. And the word, that mankind does not live on bread alone, but from every word that comes from God.
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Originally Posted by LearnMe
Flows plenty well enough for me, and/or I'm having a good deal of trouble "connecting the dots" as you seem inclined to do...
All of us, religious and non-religious, should well realize by now that the way of thinking prevalent among religious people is just not the same as those who are not, and that difference is for the most part impossible to reconcile in any logical or intelligent way.
You claim to know better than others as if you have eyes that see, while claiming oblivion, even oblivion to God's word of which you also claim to be all wise too. It is nothing new.
So, I figure it is best that you do not know me or what I share, and to just look past your oblivion nature, to the One True God and the Life He shares.
You claim to know better than others as if you have eyes that see, while claiming oblivion, even oblivion to God's word of which you also claim to be all wise too. It is nothing new.
So, I figure it is best that you do not know me or what I share, and to just look past your oblivion nature, to the One True God and the Life He shares.
I claim to know only what I know, same as others. Whether I know better, right or wrong, I leave for others to judge as they will...
What you figure is all fine and good of course, but back to reality, this is a forum where everyone seems to be posting what they think they know, and I'm just doing the same. For everyone to figure what is best for them to do as well.
I for one don't have the same sort of notions or fears that you seem to have about "oblivion" if that's what we're going to call it as someone else did earlier in this thread. For me anyway, whatever we want to call what awaits us in the end, I have no reason to think it will be any different for you, me or anyone else no matter what they seem to believe about what happens after death. I'm perfectly comfortable with that conclusion best I've been able to surmise all considered as well.
Flows plenty well enough for me, and/or I'm having a good deal of trouble "connecting the dots" as you seem inclined to do...
All of us, religious and non-religious, should well realize by now that the way of thinking prevalent among religious people is just not the same as those who are not, and that difference is for the most part impossible to reconcile in any logical or intelligent way.
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Originally Posted by chief scum
You claim to know better than others as if you have eyes that see, while claiming oblivion, even oblivion to God's word of which you also claim to be all wise too. It is nothing new.
So, I figure it is best that you do not know me or what I share, and to just look past your oblivion nature, to the One True God and the Life He shares.
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Originally Posted by LearnMe
I claim to know only what I know, same as others. Whether I know better, right or wrong, I leave for others to judge as they will...
What you figure is all fine and good of course, but back to reality, this is a forum where everyone seems to be posting what they think they know, and I'm just doing the same. For everyone to figure what is best for them to do as well.
I for one don't have the same sort of notions or fears that you seem to have about "oblivion" if that's what we're going to call it as someone else did earlier in this thread. For me anyway, whatever we want to call what awaits us in the end, I have no reason to think it will be any different for you, me or anyone else no matter what they seem to believe about what happens after death. I'm perfectly comfortable with that conclusion best I've been able to surmise all considered as well.
Concerning the bolded in each post. My bolded response is giving you what "you" asked for in the bolded of the post I responded too.
Then the "reality" of the bolded in your next post, is that you try to spin it back on me.
There are other devious things in your posts. It is freeing to see past all that kind of stuff.
I am not oblivious to all the trickery. Your oblivion nature belongs to you. While you try to attach that to others.
Last edited by chief scum; 12-15-2022 at 04:17 PM..
I figure you can claim oblivion as your total sum if you want. While it doesn't flow with your second paragraph.
According to your claim the harvested temporal food people eat has no life to share or offer.
The fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, had no life to share. And after it had been eaten God pointed to the birth of a child. And the word, that mankind does not live on bread alone, but from every word that comes from God.
No I suppose it wouldn't track for you. I said noting about food, so I'm not sure what you're on about in the rest of your post.
What is important to me is that life is at least relatively coherent and comprehensible and it was very beneficial for me to get rid of all the ridiculous expectations that religious faith gave me of life -- expectations that were installed in childhood and consistently reinforced into adulthood. Religious faith was an inaccurate mental model of reality. And I don't like surprises. It's really that simple.
Some people can more readily rationalize the leaky abstractions than I can; my "rationalizer" shorted out somewhere in my mid 30s and hasn't worked since.
My quality of life is far better than it ever was as a Christian, in quality terms -- peace of mind, self awareness, empathy, character, quality of relationships, are all better.
Samesies, Mordant. And if I go into oblivion, I'm fine with that too.
No I suppose it wouldn't track for you. I said noting about food, so I'm not sure what you're on about in the rest of your post.
What is important to me is that life is at least relatively coherent and comprehensible and it was very beneficial for me to get rid of all the ridiculous expectations that religious faith gave me of life -- expectations that were installed in childhood and consistently reinforced into adulthood. Religious faith was an inaccurate mental model of reality. And I don't like surprises. It's really that simple.
Some people can more readily rationalize the leaky abstractions than I can; my "rationalizer" shorted out somewhere in my mid 30s and hasn't worked since.
I'm not going to bother with any attempt in explaining it to you.
The Satan/serpent claimed to be all knowing about God, while he knew nothing about the Life God shared in His first spoken word, First Light. The waters clearly witnessed and accepted the Spirit nature from the womb of the dawn. Which is why water can be turned into wine.
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