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What you're talking about are mathematical probabilities. You can't physically observe a mathematical probability to verify infinite probabilities. It would be just as easy to say, based on infinite probabilities, that the Angkor Wat carving doesn't exist at all. Oddly enough though, it seems to be there.
So I take your reply to mean that you have no idea if dinos and people co-existed together 900 years ago.
Mathematical probabilities are only an abstraction describing the probabilities of an event taking place. Math is only useful in validating - it is not a theory in itself.
And yes, the opposite case could be made, like you stated.
And like I posted before. I don't know if they co-existed together, but if QT is correct than it is possible. Which I think anyone would recognize if they understood QT.
When you dream, do you dream in specific dates and events - or do you dream in symbols, metaphors, pictures and emotions?
For the most part people dream in metaphor. That is how the mind understands the world. So wouldn't it make sense that our stories used to describe the world, would also be comprised of metaphor? In fact, you could argue that metaphor is the hallmark of intelligence. Because it implies abstraction, and many different meanings and perspectives. There are not many animals besides humans that can do this.
As for unicorns - they represent something. Innocence lost perhaps.
Attempting to disclaim and ignore plain scientific evidences and facts to further one's religion is not thinking in metaphors, it is a dangerous practice that has led to such atrocities as the several Crusades, Inquasitions, Jihads, and the attempted systematic destruction of ancient cultures and religions on each and every continent save one.
Antartica.
I seriously doubt anyone on this forum, Athiest, non-Abrahamic Theist, or other has a problem with religion in general.
But when people get in your face with their religion and their refusal to acknowledge widely known scientific fact, then some people, regardless of religious affiliation or not, feel the need to attempt to correct that person, or merely ridicule them for their purposeful ignorance.
Your last sentence helped me understand, represents. Gotta cha. No to me still doesn't jive.
And I dream mostly specific, sometime with Matthew Mcconaughey! Are you by chance Native American?
I dream specific too - Viggo Mortensen . And yes I am .
Attempting to disclaim and ignore plain scientific evidences and facts to further one's religion is not thinking in metaphors, it is a dangerous practice that has led to such atrocities as the several Crusades, Inquasitions, Jihads, and the attempted systematic destruction of ancient cultures and religions on each and every continent save one.
Antartica.
I seriously doubt anyone on this forum, Athiest, non-Abrahamic Theist, or other has a problem with religion in general.
But when people get in your face with their religion and their refusal to acknowledge widely known scientific fact, then some people, regardless of religious affiliation or not, feel the need to attempt to correct that person, or merely ridicule them for their purposeful ignorance.
You forget one important fact. Civilization. Civilization has done more destruction than all other belief systems combined. Does this mean you are going to fade into the wilderness and survive off of moss and tree bark? I don't think so.
I understand your frustration with people who call themselves Christian. I have the same frustration. But I think there may be a better way to express it than attacking the faith system as a whole.
There are ignorant people under many different labels. The label does not matter.
You forget one important fact. Civilization. Civilization has done more destruction than all other belief systems combined. Does this mean you are going to fade into the wilderness and survive off of moss and tree bark? I don't think so.
I understand your frustration with people who call themselves Christian. I have the same frustration. But I think there may be a better way to express it than attacking the faith system as a whole.
There are ignorant people under many different labels. The label does not matter.
Please list which wars were started to promote "civilization".
And if you had bothered to read my posts, you would see that I do not attack their entire faith system, nor do I even lump the adherents of each of the Abrahamics into one general group.
I am a pantheist, I believe ALL deities exist, and ALL created by the concentrated will of many people over a period of time, including Jehovah.
I vigorously attack the theopolitical aspects of the organized religions.
Mathematical probabilities are only an abstraction describing the probabilities of an event taking place. Math is only useful in validating - it is not a theory in itself.
And yes, the opposite case could be made, like you stated.
And like I posted before. I don't know if they co-existed together, but if QT is correct than it is possible. Which I think anyone would recognize if they understood QT.
I'm not disageeing with QT, but if you related everything solely on the basis of infinite probabilities, then no one would ever have an understanding of anything because there would always be an infinite number of other probabilities. Like it or not, there are layers of scales, including the particular scale of existence we occupy. That said, we make decisions and have understandings that are based on what we know at the present time. That knowledge is based on events of the past. And based on events and discoveries of the past that we know about, we can either conclude that (1) a stegosaur existed in Cambodia along with people 900 years ago, or (2) stegosaurs have been extinct for millions of years and have never existed with people.
Do you think the Angkor Wat carving resembles a stegosaur?
Please list which wars were started to promote "civilization".
And if you had bothered to read my posts, you would see that I do not attack their entire faith system, nor do I even lump the adherents of each of the Abrahamics into one general group.
I am a pantheist, I believe ALL deities exist, and ALL created by the concentrated will of many people over a period of time, including Jehovah.
I vigorously attack the theopolitical aspects of the organized religions.
I don't believe in organized religion either, I think that much we can agree upon.
As far as civilization goes, I won't argue that here since that is another debate entirely. But if you want to know a well known proponent of my position you can look up Daniel Quinn and his book Ishmael.
I'm not disageeing with QT, but if you related everything solely on the basis of infinite probabilities, then no one would ever have an understanding of anything because there would always be an infinite number of other probabilities. Like it or not, there are layers of scales, including the particular scale of existence we occupy. That said, we make decisions and have understandings that are based on what we know at the present time. That knowledge is based on events of the past. And based on events and discoveries of the past that we know about, we can either conclude that (1) a stegosaur existed in Cambodia along with people 900 years ago, or (2) stegosaurs have been extinct for millions of years and have never existed with people.
Do you think the Angkor Wat carving resembles a stegosaur?
I think the crux of this debate is that we disagree on what can be considered reality. If reality is absolute than QT is not valid. But if reality is relative, then it is. Like I said before, one instance does not matter when you are debating theory. The same can be said for many myths and beliefs.
For all we know thought can influence reality, and so the belief that something happened or didn't can have a physical effect. I'm not saying its true. Just saying we don't know enough to discount it. I think in any case, its best to keep an open mind.
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