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Geez, C34 almost seems sensible compared to this guy
Quite so! Amazing, huh? Apparently there's a new one hatched every month! I'd really be interested in C34's opinion of this girl, esp., on her other posts about the sun being just a big crystal refractor lens.
BTW, here's a modern-day photo of a dinosaur. Not sure what it proves, but it must prove something out of the bible, huh?
Note the modern man riding this Komod... I mean, dinosaur! Wow. That absolutely proves Evolution can't have happened, huh?
It proves that you can do lots of fascinating new things with computers! (I'm anxiously waiting for the "photo" showing extraterrestrials addressing the United Nations).
Quite so! Amazing, huh? Apparently there's a new one hatched every month! I'd really be interested in C34's opinion of this girl, esp., on her other posts about the sun being just a big crystal refractor lens.
The created temple of God is set in the created sun in the created heaven.
That's just what the Bible says. You got a problem with the Bible?
Isaiah 18:4 in the Hebrew is plain; There is a created temple in the created heavens called "His dwelling place, the dazzling hot sun" from where God rests and scans intently, looks down upon, the doings of specific sons of Adam -Isaiah 18:4, in the Hebrew says that
the inhabitants of earth are as grasshoppers in His sight, from His dwelling place, set in the dazzling hot sun.
Enoch's visit to His created temple in His created heaven shows a "tessellated" crystal house surrounded by bands of fire, which Enoch went through to the temple. In that temple Enoch said there were no delights of life [it is not in Paradise, the City of God, then] and it was "hot as fire and cold as ice".
Above the created temple, Enoch viewed a heaven like clear water, where was the paths of the stars "above" that Holy of Holies in the heavenly temple, which Enoch visited in the vision.
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Enoch chapter 14 And I went in till I drew nigh to a wall which is built of crystals and surrounded by tongues of fire: and it began to affright 10 me. And I went into the tongues of fire and drew nigh to a large house which was built of crystals: and the walls of the house were like a tesselated floor (made) of crystals, and its groundwork was 11 of crystal. Its ceiling was like the path of the stars and the lightnings, and between them were 12 fiery cherubim, and their heaven was (clear as) water. A flaming fire surrounded the walls, and its 13 portals blazed with fire. And I entered into that house, and it was hot as fire and cold as ice: there 14 were no delights of life therein: fear covered me, and trembling got hold upon me. And as I quaked 15 and trembled, I fell upon my face. And I beheld a vision, And lo! there was a second house, greater 16 than the former, and the entire portal stood open before me, and it was built of flames of fire. And in every respect it so excelled in splendour and magnificence and extent that I cannot describe to 17 you its splendour and its extent. And its floor was of fire, and above it were lightnings and the path 18 of the stars, and its ceiling also was flaming fire. And I looked and saw therein a lofty throne: its appearance was as crystal, and the wheels thereof as the shining sun, and there was the vision of 19 cherubim. And from underneath the throne came streams of flaming fire so that I could not look 20 thereon. And the Great Glory sat thereon,
Chapter 71]
1 And it came to pass after this that my spirit was translated
And it ascended into the heavens:
And I saw the holy sons of God.
They were stepping on flames of fire:
Their garments were white [and their raiment],
And their faces shone like snow.
2 And I saw two streams of fire,
And the light of that fire shone like hyacinth,
And I fell on my face before the Lord of Spirits.
3 And the angel Michael [one of the archangels] seized me by my right hand,
And lifted me up and led me forth into all the secrets,
And he showed me all the secrets of righteousness.
4 And he showed me all the secrets of the ends of the heaven,
And all the chambers of all the stars, and all the luminaries,
Whence they proceed before the face of the holy ones.
5 And he translated my spirit into the heaven of heavens,
And I saw there as it were a structure built of crystals,
And between those crystals tongues of living fire.
6 And my spirit saw the girdle which girt that house of fire,
And on its four sides were streams full of living fire,
And they girt that house.
7 And round about were Seraphin, Cherubic, and Ophannin:
And these are they who sleep not
And guard the throne of His glory.
8 And I saw angels who could not be counted,
A thousand thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand,
Encircling that house. And Michael, and Raphael, and Gabriel, and Phanuel,
And the holy angels who are above the heavens, Go in and out of that house.
Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Rev 14:15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. Rev 14:17And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. Rev 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
Rev 19:17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
There's too much evidence to discard that indeed, God means what the Word does say in the original in this matter.
The glory and fire of the created sun is an example/type, of the Glory of God. Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
The created temple of God is set in the created sun in the created heaven.
That's just what the Bible says. You got a problem with the Bible?
The problem isn't what the Bible says. The problem is that you're trying to make everything literal word for word. That simply isn't so. A lot is figurative. A lot is also symbolic to get a main idea across. You need to use some common sense.
For example you included this verse: "Rev 19:17And I saw an angel standing in the sun..."
Okay, what if I say, "Use sunscreen if you're going to be standing in the sun." Does that mean you'd actually go to the sun to stand inside of it? Of course not. It's just a figure of speech.
The created temple of God is set in the created sun in the created heaven.
That's just what the Bible says. You got a problem with the Bible?
Isaiah 18:4 in the Hebrew is plain; There is a created temple in the created heavens called "His dwelling place, the dazzling hot sun" from where God rests and scans intently, looks down upon, the doings of specific sons of Adam -Isaiah 18:4, in the Hebrew says that
the inhabitants of earth are as grasshoppers in His sight, from His dwelling place, set in the dazzling hot sun.
Enoch's visit to His created temple in His created heaven shows a "tessellated" crystal house surrounded by bands of fire, which Enoch went through to the temple. In that temple Enoch said there were no delights of life [it is not in Paradise, the City of God, then] and it was "hot as fire and cold as ice".
Above the created temple, Enoch viewed a heaven like clear water, where was the paths of the stars "above" that Holy of Holies in the heavenly temple, which Enoch visited in the vision. Num 25:4LORDsaid [unto] Moses,Takeheadspeople,upbeforeYHWHsun,fierceangerLORDawayIsrael.
When the sun rose, the heads of the people were hung up before YHWH , whose habitation -His dwelling/temple- is in the sun, and His anger was turned away from Israel.
There's too much evidence to discard that indeed, God means what the Word does say in the original in this matter.
The glory and fire of the created sun is an example/type, of the Glory of God. Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Repeating the same blther over and oever won;t make it true. No where in your scripture does it state that the subn is a "crystal" or "refracts light".
BTW, the above passages you claim from the original Hebrew (like you're able to read Hebrew) is yet another piece of evidence that Jehovah is, in actuality, Atan, an Egyptician god.
The timing is perfect, Atenaken (Ramesis II) ordered Egypt to become monotheastic, worshiping a SUNGOD, Aten, who was also called Amen. The first Torah was written a few centuries after Atenaken died and Egypt reverted to their old Pantheon. Plenty of time for a "slave race" to worship the "forbidden god" in secret and to codify that religion around their evolved version of Aten.
Lastly, the earliest known Torah, found in a vault in Turkey, contain burial prayers that match, word for word, Egyptian burial spells.
The evidence just keeps piling up, doesn't it Sun Worshiper?
The problem isn't what the Bible says. The problem is that you're trying to make everything literal word for word. That simply isn't so. A lot is figurative. A lot is also symbolic to get a main idea across. You need to use some common sense.
For example you included this verse: "Rev 19:17And I saw an angel standing in the sun..."
Okay, what if I say, "Use sunscreen if you're going to be standing in the sun." Does that mean you'd actually go to the sun to stand inside of it? Of course not. It's just a figure of speech.
Reminds me of all those old black and white war films of world war one pilots.
"Look out, they're coming out of the sun!"
or
"I'll just hide out way up here in the sun so they don't see me."
If dinosaurs were around in the days of Noah then I cannot see how the arch would have held all the animals and the only animals mentioned in scripture are basically the animals we have today. There are ample ancient cave drawings, pictures and sculptures of early man but not a one of the largest animals to ever live. Why the ancient art world would have ignored this is unclear.
Is science wrong?
Is the Bible wrong?
If on the arch then where are the dinosaurs today?
Why is it that nonChristians always think Christians are a bunch of idiots? Some of us did graduate with a high school diploma for crying out loud! This question, while trying to highlight the ignorance of Christians, does more to highlight the ignorance of the OP.
Why is it that nonChristians always think Christians are a bunch of idiots?Some of us did graduate with a high school diploma for crying out loud! This question, while trying to highlight the ignorance of Christians, does more to highlight the ignorance of the OP.
So did my bother, and he is considered mentally handicapped.
All you have to do is read some of the other posts to find out why we think many are complete loons!!!!!!!!
So did my bother, and he is considered mentally handicapped.
All you have to do is read some of the other posts to find out why we think many are complete loons!!!!!!!!
Yes, there are loons everywhere. Nietzsche - considered one of the smartest philosophical writers of his time, was a loon. He died in a mental institution. I don't see how that proves any point.
Seems to me you are setting up a straw man, and then gloating in victory when you knock it down.
So did my bother, and he is considered mentally handicapped.
All you have to do is read some of the other posts to find out why we think many are complete loons!!!!!!!!
And just because someone is mentally handicapped does not mean they are not smart. Many geniuses have been considered mentally handicapped.
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Some of us did graduate with a high school diploma for crying out loud! This question, while trying to highlight the ignorance of Christians, does more to highlight the ignorance of the OP.
