What Is The Christian View On The Dinosaur? (Jewish, children, demons)
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A cedar of Lebanon today is not what a cedar of Lebanon was yesterday -and you're denial of what the Bible words are is silly. They are what they are, and beheme covered the so called dino's, which is a 19th century made up word. Dragons are all over the Bible, and the word translated whale is the same dragon word. AV — dragon 21, serpent 3, whale 3, sea monster 1 Gesenius's Lexicon (Help) Click Here for the Rest of the Entry
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:[ April 9th, 2009
by Chris Parker
Copyright s8int.com 2009 Photo: Umm El-Kanatir art from 400 to 700 A.D.
reptile; possibly a feline. Ceratopsian Dinosaur Depiction at Muktinath Temple
Site of 108 ‘Dragon Headed” Fountains The Muktinath Temple was consecrated in 1815 A.D by Queen Subarna Prabha, the wife of Rana Bahadur Shah. This temple is built in a Tibetan pagoda style and contains huge brass idols of Lord Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma and Kali. The local name for Muktinath is Chumig Gyatsa….Source: Pilgrimage Tours
On a wall of the temple are 108 “dragon headed” fountains which pilgrims seek out to “cleanse” themselves. Actually, the heads are variously described as; dragons or bulls. At least one of the heads, as seen here on the left in this photo, is not a dragon or a bull, but instead is an excellent likeness of a ceratopsian dinosaur.
The temple was “consecrated in 1815”. The 108 fountains has been a pilgrimage site for many number of years. Ceratopsian dinosaurs were not really understood in their present form until the late 1800’s to the early 1900’s, some years after the temple was consecrated. In 1887, a pair of ceratopsian horns were identified as horns of an extinct bison.
When was the ceratopsian depiction created? If in or around 1815, how was such an accurate depiction of a ceratopsian dinosaur created more than 60 years prior to the accurate depiction of these dinosaurs by science—unless someone had actually seen one alive? http://s8int.com/WordPress/?paged=5
:[ February 17th, 2009 Photo: Query: What’s the diameter of that tree stump, 25, 30 feet?
Answer”…it is really not a stump. It is actually a very small twig from a larger tree.
“An entire island, 50 x 100 miles, completely petrified. Covered with the petrified remains of a forest of super giants. Trees of incredible/impossible size, destroyed by a cataclysm that collapsed the island itself into the surrounding sea.
Having remained secret for all time. Now, this place has decided to make itself known.
Here is just the beginning of an astounding photographic documentation of this petrified island. A little glimpse of an entirely unknown condition upon the Earth. Giants indeed.” Joseph C. Bennett www.beholdgiants.com (http://www.beholdgiants.com/ - broken link)
“It is a major historical discovery and will cause a major upheavel in the “science”; and religous sectors.
……..”this isn’t “rocket science”. Any self respecting boy scout can identify petrified wood.” www.beholdgiants.com (http://www.beholdgiants.com/ - broken link) …….”When you get to the top of one particular ridge, overlooking a long meadow to the south and a larger valley to the south east, you see a vast landscape, littered everywhere with large petrified tree sections similar to the ones you have seen so far. Then when you look out a little further, you notice right away that things get a lot bigger and you realize that everything else you have seen is most certainly smaller giant trees and branches of much larger giant trees.
Wow. Time to burn some brain calories. First, is this for real?”..www.beholdgiants.com (http://www.beholdgiants.com/ - broken link)
Joseph Bennett made these discoveries while hiking in the Black Hills of South Dakota himself. As he says, these artifacts aren’t going to go away. Anyone with the time, a little knowledge and the inclination can verify these discoveries-and their implications themselves.
Check out the beginning of the photographic record at www.beholdgiants.com (http://www.beholdgiants.com/ - broken link)
Dino saur is a modern word. The Bible Word is תנין tanniyn 1) dragon, serpent, sea monster a) dragon or dinosaur b) sea or river monster c) serpent, venomous snake
Gen 1:21 And God created great תנין tanniyn, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
and the Bahamas are named after them, by a Hebrew speaking Jew who traveled with Columbus.
And בהמה bĕhemah is, Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and בהמה bĕhemah after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
Job 40:15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.
What a steaming pile of donkey doo... At 105 feet long and 6 feet in diameter, The Monarch or "tunnel" tree is the largest intact petrified tree in the world.
The Petrified Forest - Virtual Trail (http://www.petrifiedforest.org/virtual.html#mon - broken link)
Wow, you are really introducing many strawmen - huh?
WTF has a dragon depicted in the East like India or China have to do with the ME writings of goatherders?
Oh BTW, your dragon is also the devil aka satan et al so your logic fails. Use the Strongs concordance not some mamby pamby YEC one
You are self important in your denials of what is historically proven, and you are shown to have no knowledge of what true history shows in artifacts left for the world to examine, which show that indeed, men and terrible lizards -dragons, co-existed, and actually still co-exist in the world in many places, as reports from around the world have shown, for centuries.
Jesus called Herod a fox and believers are called sheep; unbelievers are called goats; the wicked princes in Israel are called roaring lions and her judges evening wolves; a Canaanite woman and her daughter were called dogs; Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, and He called Satan Leviathan, a serpent.
But the serpent Leviathan is actually one of His created dragons which breathes out fire, and is the chief of his creation, though he called Satan Leviathan in the same manner he gives peoples and nations totemic identities, in Enoch and in the OT and NT. Nations are identified as leopards bears; lions; eagles; and so on.
Luk 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third [day] I shall be perfected.
Zep 3:3 Her princes within her [are] roaring lions; her judges [are] evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.
Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower? Job 41:2 Can you put a reed through his nose,
Or pierce his jaw with a hook? Job 41:3 Will he make many supplications to you?
Will he speak softly to you? Job 41:4 Will he make a covenant with you?
Will you take him as a servant forever? Job 41:5 Will you play with him as with a bird,
Or will you leash him for your maidens? Job 41:6 Will your companions make a banquetof him?
Will they apportion him among the merchants? Job 41:7 Can you fill his skin with harpoons,
Or his head with fishing spears? Job 41:8 Lay your hand on him;
Remember the battle--
Never do it again! Job 41:9 Indeed, any hope of overcoming him is false;
Shall one not be overwhelmed at the sight of him? Job 41:10 No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up.
Who then is able to stand against Me? Job 41:11 Who has preceded Me, that I should pay him?
Everything under heaven is Mine.
Job 41:12 "I will not conceal his limbs,
His mighty power, or his graceful proportions. Job 41:13 Who can remove his outer coat?
Who can approach him with a double bridle? Job 41:14 Who can open the doors of his face, With his terrible teeth all around? Job 41:15His rows of scales are his pride,
Shut up tightly as with a seal; Job 41:16 One is so near another
That no air can come between them; Job 41:17 They are joined one to another,
They stick together and cannot be parted. Job 41:18 His sneezings flash forth light,
And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Job 41:19 Out of his mouth go burning lights;
Sparks of fire shoot out. Job 41:20 Smoke goes out of his nostrils,
As from a boiling pot and burning rushes. Job 41:21 His breath kindles coals,
And a flame goes out of his mouth. Job 41:22 Strength dwells in his neck,
And sorrow dances before him. Job 41:23 The folds of his flesh are joined together;
They are firm on him and cannot be moved. Job 41:24 His heart is as hard as stone,
Even as hard as the lower millstone. Job 41:25 When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid;
Because of his crashings they are besidethemselves. Job 41:26Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail;
Nor does spear, dart, or javelin. Job 41:27 He regards iron as straw, And bronze as rotten wood. Job 41:28 The arrow cannot make him flee;
Slingstones become like stubble to him. Job 41:29 Darts are regarded as straw;
He laughs at the threat of javelins. Job 41:30 His undersides are like sharp potsherds;
He spreads pointed marks in the mire. Job 41:31 He makes the deep boil like a pot;
He makes the sea like a pot of ointment. Job 41:32 He leaves a shining wake behind him; One would think the deep had white hair. Job 41:33 On earth there is nothing like him,
Which is made without fear. Job 41:34 He beholds every high thing;
He is king over all the children of pride."
Meanwhile, While We're About it, More Dinosaur/Human Interacting in France?
Taking the opportunity available we now move to another part of France and a different time. This perhaps has little to do with the monuments of Ancient Finistere, but it does have to do with evidence that man and dinosaur interacted with each other in the near and distant past. In any case, this additional information is also provided for your consideration for free and as the wags say, worth every penny.
“Some of the beautiful French chateaus built at the close of the Middle Ages and early 1500’s have dramatic dragon illustrations carved into their walls, ceilings, and furniture.
Huebei Provincial Museum, China.Tomb of Marquis Yi. A bronze instrument support. approximately 2,500 years old.Right: Carnegie Museum's Dippy the diploducus, approximately 2,500 days. Click and drag photo to resize.
Marquis Yi's Tomb[
The Warring States Period (475-221 BC) was a time of turmoil and violence, with constant warfare between the regional states, but it was also a time of great intellectual and artistic activity, when the intellectual traditions of Confucianism, Daoism, and Legalism originated....
Inscriptions on the bronzes found at the site identify the tomb as that of a marquis of the state of Zeng, a small state then under the domination of Chu.
Huebei Provincial Museum, China.
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The tomb is 21m long, 16.5m wide, and 13m deep, making it 220 square meters in area. It has four chambers.
The eastern chamber contained the marquis's lacquered double coffin, the coffins of eight young women, and a dog in its own coffin.
The chamber also contained weapons, a chariot, and many personal items, including furniture, a zither, silk, and vessels -- but no bronze vessels.
The central chamber seems to have been a ceremonial hall, with a large set of bronze bells and other instruments, as well as bronze ritual vessels.
The northern chamber served as an armory and storeroom, the western chamber, where thirteen more young women were buried, as servants' quarters.
The young women were all between the ages of 13 and 25. The eight in the eastern chamber were probably musicians who had entertained the marquis at court while the other 13 might have been concubines. The practice of human sacrifice or "accompanying in death" was already unusual by this time....
Dinosaurs in Art: The Dragon of Ishtar Gate;
the Dragon of Marduk, Real or Imagined? ...Page 37
"The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate may be one of Cryptozoology's strangest, yet best-documented, ancient crypids. This two and a half millennium old depiction is so unusual that many treat it as a chimera, an impossible combination of animals that could never have existed in nature.
But the people of ancient Babylon knew and accepted the 'dragon' as real, as real as the bulls and lions that also share the walls"..... Dragon of the Ishtar Gate by David G Stone.
The Ishtar Gate
The Dragon of Ishtar gate. The Marduk Dragon. This is the actual image of the dragon on the Gate at Ishtar, which was painted on brick.
Babylonian,Date: 604-562 BC. Click
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"In 1902, German archaeologist Robert Koldewey unearthed the fabled Ishtar Gate in the ruins of Babylon. The gateway dated from the time of King Nebuchadnezzar (about 600 B.C.) and was decorated with bas-reliefs.
The animals depicted on the Gate were known to the Babylonians - two of the animals depicted were lions and rimi (aurochs, a type of wild ox). Of the three animals depicted, one could not be identified.
It seemed to show a mythical animal, which seemed out of place with sculptures depicting known animals that were contemporary with the Babylonians.
The animal, which Koldewey recognized as a sirrush (dragon; the word mushrushu or mushhushshu is the commonly-accepted modern form, based on a retranslation of the original word) can be described as having ...a slender body covered with scales, a long slender scaly tail, and a long slim scaly neck bearing a serpent's head... [from the mouth] a long forked tongue protrudes.
When the Hebrew prophet Daniel began to denounce the worship of idols, Nebuchadnezzar confronted him with the Bel-dragon, saying that it "liveth and eateth and drinketh; you cannot say that he is no living god; therefore worship him."
Daniel responded by killing the dragon.
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The Muktinath Temple was consecrated in 1815 A.D by Queen Subarna Prabha, the wife of Rana Bahadur Shah. This temple is built in a Tibetan pagoda style and contains huge brass idols of Lord Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma and Kali. The local name for Muktinath is Chumig Gyatsa….Source: Pilgrimage Tours
At least one of the heads, as seen here on the left in this photo, is not a dragon or a bull, but instead is an excellent likeness of a ceratopsian dinosaur. 
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