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Old 07-30-2009, 05:25 PM
 
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How can the God of the Torah and Christian bible be the same as Allah if there are two different creation stories?
The Creator is called God in English, Yahweh in Hebrew and Allah in Arabic.

God revealed the Torah to Moses, the Gospel to Jesus and the Quran to Mohammed.

But the first two books have been altered and changed by men; so that the present Torah is not the original Torah of God, but it is the Torah of Ezra: the priest who re-wrote the Torah following the return of the Children of Israel from the captivity of Babylon.

This Ezra, the priest or the scribe, made serious changes and alterations deliberately or not; because he was old when they returned to Palestine and he forgot many things.

See about his trickery here:
The Disagreement of the
Then from the list of Contents, click on:
The Torah [or Hebrew Bible] of Ezra

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Originally Posted by Marissy View Post
In the Torah and Bible, God made everything out of nothing, created Adam and Eve, Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden, and procreated. From these stories, they are inferred to be the ONLY ancestors of all men, and that ALL men of ALL colors come from them.
In the Quran, also God created Adam and Eve, and they were kicked out of the garden and procreated.

But the story of Adam and Eve is distorted in the Torah of Ezra (which is now included in the Old Testament), and many of its events are obviously wrong and unreasonable, and evidently it is not the original true story.

The Disagreement of the
Then from the list of Contents, click on:
The Second mistake: The Story Of Adam And Eve
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Old 07-31-2009, 06:35 AM
 
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People of the planets believe in God's religion

This is in the Quran 3: 83
أَفَغَيْرَ دِينِ اللّهِ يَبْغُونَ وَلَهُ أَسْلَمَ مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ طَوْعًا وَكَرْهًا وَإِلَيْهِ يُرْجَعُونَ

The explanation
(What [religion] other than God's religion is that these [Jews and Christians] crave,

when to Him is resigned whosoever is in the heavens and the earth [: the planets including the earth], willingly or loath,

and to His [judgment] shall they return [after death]!?)

The interpretation:
What do these Jews and Christians demand even after the arguments and proofs came to the truthfulness of Prophet Mohammed, and his devotion to God alone, which is the religion of the monotheism?

So what is more than the monotheism and devotion to God do they demand?

Is not the devotion to God alone is the original and true religion of God?

Moreover, to this religion of God: all people and intelligent beings on the planets have submitted themselves: either willingly, or by loath following their death when they saw the angels and the punishment of God to the atheist, the associater and the idolater.

In addition, people of the planets do not know our prophets: they do not know Moses, Jesus or Mohammed; but they have their own prophets and apostles whom God has sent them out of themselves to warn them of the idolatry and associating anyone with God.

Therefore, people of the planets know God alone, to Whom they pray, and from Him alone do they ask their needs.

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The Disagreement of the

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Old 07-31-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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Let's do a test....I call on god, any god to strike me dead here and now.

And when they said: O Allah! If this be indeed the truth from Thee, then rain down stones on us or bring on us some painful doom!
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If Allah were to punish men for their wrong-doing, He would not leave, on the (earth), a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: When their Term expires, they would not be able to delay (the punishment) for a single hour, just as they would not be able to anticipate it (for a single hour).
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Think not that Allah doth not heed the deeds of those who do wrong. He but giveth them respite against a Day when the eyes will fixedly stare in horror
They running forward with necks outstretched, their heads uplifted, their gaze returning not towards them, and their hearts a (gaping) void!
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Old 08-01-2009, 04:28 AM
 
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People of the planets are the servants of God

This is in the Quran 21: 19
وَلَهُ مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَمَنْ عِندَهُ لَا يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ عَنْ عِبَادَتِهِ وَلَا يَسْتَحْسِرُونَ

The explanation:
(All those who are in the heavens and the earth [: the planets including the earth] belong to Him,

and those [angels] who are in His [neighborhood: in the kingdom of heavens or the ethereal heavens] are not too proud to serve Him,

nor do they regret [for the passing of time: because they live forever, not like man in his life of the World, whose life time is limited; and so he regrets for the passing of time.])

so He differentiated between ‘those who are in His [neighborhood]’ from ‘those who are in the heavens and the earth’. He means, by His saying :
مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْض
i.e. (All those who are in the heavens and the earth) ; it means: all those in the planets including the earth;

While His saying:
ومَنْ عندَهُ
i.e. (those who are in His [neighborhood] ); it means: the angels because they are in the ethereal heavens (or the kingdom of heavens) under the throne of God.

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The ethereal heavens
The material heavens
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:53 PM
 
Location: united states of america
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Ungrateful?, really?, once Allah provides solid evidence to his existance (which shouldn't be too hard, right?) only then i will believe. PLEASE don't use the Quran to prove Allah's existance.


KORAN GET IT RIGHT NOT THAT I CARE ANYWAY,ALLAH IS FAKE ALL FAKE AND NOTHING BUT FAKE SO HELP ME GOD!
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:28 PM
 
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God is the Creator of everything in the universe

The Creator is called God in English, Allah in Arabic, Khodah in Persian and Kurdish, and Yahweh in Hebrew. So Allah is the name of God in Arabic.

The fake is only the claim of atheists, who obviously lie and insist on their lies, and deny God Who created everything in the universe.

This is in the Quran 13: 16
قُلْ مَن رَّبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ قُلِ اللّهُ قُلْ أَفَاتَّخَذْتُم مِّن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاء لاَ يَمْلِكُونَ لِأَنفُسِهِمْ نَفْعًا وَلاَ ضَرًّا قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الأَعْمَى وَالْبَصِيرُ أَمْ هَلْ تَسْتَوِي الظُّلُمَاتُ وَالنُّورُ أَمْ جَعَلُواْ لِلّهِ شُرَكَاء خَلَقُواْ كَخَلْقِهِ فَتَشَابَهَ الْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ قُلِ اللّهُ خَالِقُ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُوَ الْوَاحِدُ الْقَهَّارُ

The explanation:

(Say: "Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?"
Say: "[He is] God."
Say: "Do you then take as patrons – apart from Him – those who even have no power to profit for themselves or to hurt?"
Say: "Are [then] the blind and the All-Seeing equal? Or are the darkness and the light equal?"

Or do they assign to God associates who created the like of His creation so that the creation seemed alike to them?

Say: "God is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Dominant.")


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The heavens
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Old 08-21-2009, 05:38 AM
 
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Another thread hijacked by Quran. Hey, here's a weird idea: how about more discussion and less quoting?
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:39 AM
 
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Another thread hijacked by Quran. Hey, here's a weird idea: how about more discussion and less quoting?

And where is your discussion, other than denial and mockery?

While the Quran gives the answer; as in the aya 25: 33
وَلَا يَأْتُونَكَ بِمَثَلٍ إِلَّا جِئْنَاكَ بِالْحَقِّ وَأَحْسَنَ تَفْسِيرًا

The explanation:
(And they bring you [Mohammed] no argument
but We bring you the true [answer as against it], and a better explanation [thereof.])
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Most, if not all, the planets of our solar system are inhabited,
Is the moon inhabited?
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Is the moon inhabited?
According to some on the UFO thread the far side of the moon is inhabited by aliens who've built a base there. We'd be able to see it but those pesky people at NASA blurred out parts of the images that were taken when we landed on the moon many years ago.
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