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Old 07-22-2009, 12:37 PM
 
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The average temperature on Mars is minus 81 degrees F. Obviously that rules out liquid water in the form of streams as you suggest and any plant or animal would be frozen solid along with the water. If you view the earth from space you can clearly see vegetation, rivers, lakes, and manmade structures such as cities, canals, dams, etc. which are clearly not natural formations. We see nothing like that on Mars. Go to the NASA website and look at some of the photos. You won't find anything that will back up your claim of a planet thriving with life.

Such figures are not correct 100% . How did they reach to such average temperature? They did not measure the temperature everwhere on Mars, but only on certain sites then they reached to some average figures like this.

Moreover, in case such temperatures are there on Mars, why is the ice only on tops of mountains? Why not the slopes and valleys are also frozen [similar to the situation on Earth]? Why are the polar caps frozen in particular rather than all the regions of Mars [also like our Earth]?

In addition, it seems they could not apply the same precision of viewing the Earth, they did not apply it to Mars; because of the very far distance of Mars from us. The indication of this lies in the fact that the images cannot be seen with such details as those about the Earth.

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Old 07-22-2009, 12:39 PM
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Fred314X said: "Things do not become true simply because you continue to repeat them."


In the first post, it is mentioned that life had been exterminated on both Mercury and Venus, and in a following post: it is mentioned that life had also been exterminated on the Asteroids that once had been a planet.
"Things do not become true simply because you continue to repeat them."
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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Life is there on most, if not all, of the planets, with the exception of Mercury, Venus on which the conditions have become disastrous and unsuitable for life.

And with the exception of the planet of the Asteroids, which was broken up on its Doomsday, which came early because its inhabitants were wrong-doers, associaters, idolaters and atheists; so God took revenge on them and destroyed their planet.
Any evidence to support those claims? Not including your favourite holy book, of course.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:07 PM
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Such figures are not correct 100% . How did they reach to such average temperature? They did not measure the temperature everwhere on Mars, but only on certain sites then they reached to some average figures like this.

Moreover, in case such temperatures are there on Mars, why is the ice only on tops of mountains? Why not the slopes and valleys are also frozen [similar to the situation on Earth]? Why are the polar caps frozen in particular rather than all the regions of Mars [also like our Earth]?

In addition, it seems they could not apply the same precision of viewing the Earth, they did not apply it to Mars; because of the very far distance of Mars from us. The indication of this lies in the fact that the images cannot be seen with such details as those about the Earth.

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The current mean temperature on the equator of Mars is a blustery -69 degrees Fahrenheit. In fact, the evidence suggests that during the last 4 billion years, Mars has never been sufficiently warm for liquid water to have flowed on the surface for extended periods of time. Mars therefore has probably never had an environment hospitable to the evolution of life–unless life got started during the first half-billion years of its existence, when the planet was probably warmer.

The ice on the poles of Mars is not water ice. It is frozen carbon dioxide. I suggest put down the Quran for awhile and get yourself up to speed on astronomy. You are making a fool of yourself.
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Old 07-22-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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I don't know whom you follow, but certainly from your words, you do not belong to either Moses, Jesus or Mohammed.
Well, you certainly do have one thing right!
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:15 PM
 
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Mars has no magnetic field to protect it from cosmic radiation!
If there are any microbes or extremophiles that survive there they would certainly be primitive and not plant or flesh... Almost feel silly responding to this post.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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eanassir wrote:

The average temperature on Mars is minus 81 degrees F. Obviously that rules out liquid water in the form of streams as you suggest and any plant or animal would be frozen solid along with the water. If you view the earth from space you can clearly see vegetation, rivers, lakes, and manmade structures such as cities, canals, dams, etc. which are clearly not natural formations. We see nothing like that on Mars. Go to the NASA website and look at some of the photos. You won't find anything that will back up your claim of a planet thriving with life.

On earth we find the high mountain tops covered with ice, while the slopes and the valleys below are relatively warm, and do not include ice.

On Mars, we see the same: only the tops of the high mountains are covered with ice; therefore, if their claim that the temperature is so low on all the surface of Mars, why do we see the tops only covered with ice: it should be in such case all the mountains and valleys are covered with ice, and not only the tops ?

And why we see the ice confined to the polar caps? why will not all the regions - including the equator - contain ice ?
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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Any evidence to support those claims? Not including your favourite holy book, of course.

Of course, life cannot be there on either of Mercury and Venus, becuse of the hard conditions on these two planets: Mercury has no or a very thin atmosphere, while there is a very thick poisonous and suffocating cloud of smock in the atmsophere of Venus.

Moreover, the extreme temperatures (because of the particular way of movement) on either of these two planets makes it evident no life is there now.

The Asteroids are very small relatively, and if any life on any of the Asteroids like the big Asteroid, then such life will be in the form of microorganism, worm and maybe some frogs for example. And it can't be that such minute objects bear any intelligent life on them.

While the rest of the planets include water which has been proved on some of them, and the rings of Saturn and Uranus indicate the existence of water and that such rings are infact the scattering or the dispersion of light elements similar to the effect of prism, and such rings are only a rainbow process by the effect of profuse water particles and ice particles in the atmospheres of these planets.

God – be exalted – said in the Quran, 21: 30
وجَعَلْنا مِنَ الماءِ كُلَّ شَيءٍ حَيٍّ
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(And [We] made – of water – every living thing.)


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Old 07-22-2009, 10:12 PM
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On earth we find the high mountain tops covered with ice, while the slopes and the valleys below are relatively warm, and do not include ice.

On Mars, we see the same: only the tops of the high mountains are covered with ice; therefore, if their claim that the temperature is so low on all the surface of Mars, why do we see the tops only covered with ice: it should be in such case all the mountains and valleys are covered with ice, and not only the tops ?

And why we see the ice confined to the polar caps? why will not all the regions - including the equator - contain ice ?
Do you not read what others post? It is so cold that any visible ice on Mars is not water ice, but frozen carbon dioxide.
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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The current mean temperature on the equator of Mars is a blustery -69 degrees Fahrenheit. In fact, the evidence suggests that during the last 4 billion years, Mars has never been sufficiently warm for liquid water to have flowed on the surface for extended periods of time. Mars therefore has probably never had an environment hospitable to the evolution of life–unless life got started during the first half-billion years of its existence, when the planet was probably warmer.

The ice on the poles of Mars is not water ice. It is frozen carbon dioxide. I suggest put down the Quran for awhile and get yourself up to speed on astronomy. You are making a fool of yourself.

It is very difficult (at least to me) to speak in billions of years with such certainty.

While as regards the postulation that the ice in the polar caps of Mars is a frozen carbon dioxide: I say why do you go to such postulation, and leave the straightforward thing, which is the polar region of Mars are like that of Earth and this is only frozen water like that of the Earth and its polar regions.

Moreover, you have to review your information: because the Lander proved the ice at least in its viscinity is water ice.

This change from the idea of frozen CO2 to frozen water reflects to us, that the knowledge they know about Mars is relatively little, and one should not insist and cling absolutely to their changing views.

While the Quran is the authentic word of God, and anyone disregards it will regret in the next afterlife, and cannot answer when he will be asked: why didn't you follow the word of God included in the Glorious Quran!?

As it is in the Quran 20: 99-101
وَقَدْ آتَيْنَاكَ مِن لَّدُنَّا ذِكْرًا . مَنْ أَعْرَضَ عَنْهُ فَإِنَّهُ يَحْمِلُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ وِزْرًا . خَالِدِينَ فِيهِ وَسَاء لَهُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ حِمْلًا

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(and We have given you [Mohammed, the Quran as] an admonition from Us.

whosoever turns away from it [and does not believe in the Quran], upon the Day of Judgment he shall bear a [heavy] burden [of sins, and that will be disgrace to them in the afterlife]

Abiding in it [in the doom and punishment] – an evil load will it be for them on the Day of Judgment.)

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