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Old 09-06-2010, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I fear nothing...And i've been down your road before and found it empty of Truth and void of reason...I recognize what speaks through you...It is just a matter of fact...You claim to be wise but are a fool...Things are the way they are...Things will be the way they will become...your end has been prophesied...
But you fear spirit communication because of what the bible tells you.

And things are the way they are because of what man thinks it should be. If we all followed God right from the beginning, we would be living Heaven on Earth right now. But, men have claimed to be better and know more than GOd so what this world is today is by mans own doing.

We must get back to God and what His Love created us to be. We are perfect, we are rare, we are precious. However, since men want to think terrible things, we have created a world with terrible things in it. It will be left to us to fix it and God nor anyone else will do it for us. They will help but they will not do it. Just like your sins. You made them, you have to rid yourself of them.

Aciually, my end has been layed bare only to God as He is the only one who knows my path. No man can claim that right. When you say that it has been prophesied, then you are just falling into the traps that men have layed for other men as men can never know the future of another.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:00 AM
 
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If you are a descendent along the female line from someone who was Jewish, then you are Jewish and bound by the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments).
My mother to her mother to her mother to her father...i think...
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:04 AM
 
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Jesus of Nazareth was an observant Jew, who only ate kosher food, observed Shabbat and all the Holy and Festival Days, who kept all of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments) that are binding on individuals, and, as a rabbi, was a Pharisee.
Did not a person have to be educated and officially recognized as a Rabbi in order to be considered a Rabbi?...Kind of like a Priest or Minister?..
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:10 AM
 
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You did... that's very interesting. On the contrary, both were not written by men... the bible, yes... the Padgett messages, no. They are spirit communications, some from the highest spiritual source, of which I've already posted was Jesus, himself.
So say the Prophets of old...If the prophets have no proof that they were devinely communicated with then neither does Padgett...1+1=2, not 3...
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:19 AM
 
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But you fear spirit communication because of what the bible tells you.

And things are the way they are because of what man thinks it should be. If we all followed God right from the beginning, we would be living Heaven on Earth right now. But, men have claimed to be better and know more than GOd so what this world is today is by mans own doing.

We must get back to God and what His Love created us to be. We are perfect, we are rare, we are precious. However, since men want to think terrible things, we have created a world with terrible things in it. It will be left to us to fix it and God nor anyone else will do it for us. They will help but they will not do it. Just like your sins. You made them, you have to rid yourself of them.

Aciually, my end has been layed bare only to God as He is the only one who knows my path. No man can claim that right. When you say that it has been prophesied, then you are just falling into the traps that men have layed for other men as men can never know the future of another.
You have no clue to where i have been and how far i have gone, i've walked through and shoveled enough of it to recognize the smell and know its origins...
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:28 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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It is offensive to any Jew not just traditional Jews to use the term Old Testament and to say the Christian bible replaced the Hebrew Bible.
I think this is one where you might have to give a little, depending on what you mean. If I'm wanting to talk about the Jewish scriptures I will refer to words like "Tanakh" or "Torah." I wouldn't use the term "Old Testament" if I'm referring to Judaism, unless by accident and I'd be willing to correct that when it occurs. If that's what you mean okay.

However if you mean the term can't be used in regards to Christianity, afraid that's not going to fly and frankly can't fly with me. In my Bible it is "The Old Testament." More than that it's not even the same, for us Catholics, as your Tanakh. The Catholic Old Testament is based on the Septuagint, which is more ancient Alexandrian Judaism I believe. I can't, or frankly just won't, call it something else when referring to my religion. More important it would be unreasonable for you to even ask such a thing. Just like you shouldn't ask Christians to not use the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus, even if you find the idea offensive. Just like I shouldn't/won't get irritated with Baha'i for calling Bahaullah the avatar of God or whatever. These are the kinds of compromises you have to make when living in a religiously diverse society.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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You have no clue to where i have been and how far i have gone, i've walked through and shoveled enough of it to recognize the smell and know its origins...
I command you for your efforts. However, you are not perfect so you cannot say anyone should be perfect. If you were, you would let others lie where their own paths takes them and not belittle one belief over another. Beliefs are of the mind, Truths lie in the soul and all will be laid bare upon entrance into the spirit world.

To live in Love and just BE is what God would have us do. Even in your own bible it tells you the same thing yet when a spirit message tells you to do the same, you discredit that message because of the source. The source is never what we should be adhering to rather the message is of most importance. To love God and each other and to become perfect as our Father is perfect. Those are the things we must do. Nothing else matters. Nothing. I do believe the bible tells you the exact same thing.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I think coming back from the dead is impressive enough...
No objective evidence for that....just belief.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:03 AM
 
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I command you for your efforts. However, you are not perfect so you cannot say anyone should be perfect. If you were, you would let others lie where their own paths takes them and not belittle one belief over another. Beliefs are of the mind, Truths lie in the soul and all will be laid bare upon entrance into the spirit world.

To live in Love and just BE is what God would have us do. Even in your own bible it tells you the same thing yet when a spirit message tells you to do the same, you discredit that message because of the source. The source is never what we should be adhering to rather the message is of most importance. To love God and each other and to become perfect as our Father is perfect. Those are the things we must do. Nothing else matters. Nothing. I do believe the bible tells you the exact same thing.
You command nothing of me...you are a paradox...And i am letting you go where it has been ordained from the beginning you will go...simple as that...
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Old 09-06-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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I think this is one where you might have to give a little, depending on what you mean. If I'm wanting to talk about the Jewish scriptures I will refer to words like "Tanakh" or "Torah." I wouldn't use the term "Old Testament" if I'm referring to Judaism, unless by accident and I'd be willing to correct that when it occurs. If that's what you mean okay.

However if you mean the term can't be used in regards to Christianity, afraid that's not going to fly and frankly can't fly with me. In my Bible it is "The Old Testament." More than that it's not even the same, for us Catholics, as your Tanakh. The Catholic Old Testament is based on the Septuagint, which is more ancient Alexandrian Judaism I believe. I can't, or frankly just won't, call it something else when referring to my religion. More important it would be unreasonable for you to even ask such a thing. Just like you shouldn't ask Christians to not use the word "Messiah" in reference to Jesus, even if you find the idea offensive. Just like I shouldn't/won't get irritated with Baha'i for calling Bahaullah the avatar of God or whatever. These are the kinds of compromises you have to make when living in a religiously diverse society.
Well then it won't fly... But to Jews it is insulting to call the Bible the old testament. Plain and simple. You are a rare person who even knows that the Hebrew scriptures are called the Tanakh. I don't ask Christians not to call Jesus Messiah they can call him what ever they choose. He still is not the messiah, but a man who was a Jew.
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