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Living in North Carolina I have had ample opportunities to watch/listen to Christian TV and radio. Talk about kick backs, a lot of time that stuff is infomercials where they sell God and by selling God I mean there is a toll free number which you can call to give money to the televangelist for the modern day equivalent of an indulgence. The song "Jesus He Knows Me" pretty much sums up the relationship between a bunch of what is promoted as "Christianity" today and capitalism.
there are lots of folks selling fake rolex watches and Italiian shoes. that doesn't mean the real ones don't exist. stop watching that junk
there are lots of folks selling fake rolex watches and Italiian shoes. that doesn't mean the real ones don't exist. stop watching that junk
I find it both sad and humorous at same time sort of like some of the towns down here that consist of largely of liquor stores, gun stores, porn shops, gentleman's clubs and churches I do not actually believe any of it, in fact I do not believe any form of Christianity even the highly respectable ones, granted I often admire their work, but do not believe it. I have read about it, thought about it, just don't believe it.
The religious right have no monopoly on the concept, or reality of god, however you see or don't see it. God is in the eye/mind/heart of the beholder. or not. What's the big deal, either way ? No one has a right to cram a belief system on other people, although they try. god is like water : steam, fog, stream, ocean. rain. Take your choice. or not. See god as you wish. or not.
Christianity is like a baby religion spoon fed to spiritual children. Until we put down the Gerbers and start chewing solid food mankind will always be bumbling and childlike.
While the fear of punishment in the afterlife may keep a fair number of people "on the straight and narrow" I think that overall religion is just one of the many things that stand in the way of man reaching his true potential.
God, in any form or religion for that matter, is just a way for people to try and understand the unexplainable. That's why we have science, which has loads more support and factual evidence behind it.
the Bible said it would be this way in the last days...but nobody believes what the Bible says anymore because it has rules to live by...i guess it goes hand in hand with the way kids treat the parents these days...like rules are actually bad for them and now u see how our society is.
Who cares about the Bible's rules? Who has lived by Bible rules anyway? Not to mention that some Bible rules demand that people hurt each other.
Our society is mean and selfish, but much of such conditions have been supported by the religious for centuries.
Source: 29% of Americans say religion ‘out of date’ | Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/2009/12/29-americans-religion-out-date/ - broken link)
Another setback for the religious right.
Count me as one of that 29%; religion was historically useful both as a means of promoting order and as a means of explaining complex phenomenon before the rise of the scientific method and modern technology. However, the scientific method has led to a much better means of exploring how the world and universe function. Religion no longer works towards these functions, it is an archaic institution that doesn't easily fit in with our more modern understandings of reality. Of course, religion is deeply embedded in our culture, it is an enormous part of our history which means that it is very difficult to shed, it's not going to go away easy. However, given trends in Europe which seem to be catching on, though still lagging far behind, here in the US, it will eventually become a minority viewpoint.
(I am guessing this thread may get moved to the Religion & Philosophy forum, though I hope note! It has political implications and it's interesting to discuss religion in a forum with a political bent to it).
The Big Bang theory is based on observable evidence that the universe and stars are expanding outwards from a single source. The Big Bang theory does not address what happened or existed immediately before "the bang" - just what happened afterwards.
Never mind a speck- I can't get my mind around infinity. Does the universe go on forever or have a boundary? Is it a curved boundary like the earth - you can't reach the edge and fall off? What lies beyond the boundary? Nothing? What is nothing? If we could understood the limits of the universe then originating from an infinitesimal speck may be totally logical.
Last edited by Mike from back east; 12-29-2009 at 01:54 PM..
Well, if you truly have faith in a Creator and if you're interested in figuring him/her/it out, you're eventually faced with a choice: Do you root your understanding in the Creation, as it unfolds itself in front of you, with the senses you've been given? Or would you rather trust your Holy Book, written and edited by men?
Understand that this is rather hypothetical on my part, as I have little in the way of faith myself. But I do find the universe way more awe-inspiring than any 10 holy books you'd care to mention.
Last edited by Mike from back east; 12-29-2009 at 01:53 PM..
The Big Bang theory is based on observable evidence that the universe and stars are expanding outwards from a single source. The Big Bang theory does not address what happened or existed immediately before "the bang" - just what happened afterwards.
It's worse - there is no "before". Time and space is linked. It's like asking what is North of the North Pole. Enough to make a man's brain hurt.
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