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No, it's not a valid comparison when used within the context of Covid for several reasons. Maryland, D.C, and Virginia joined together to coordinate plans that would best protect their residents. Unlike many, if not all, of the Southern states, these three jurisdictions quickly mandated the use of masks, social distancing, closing the businesses that carried the highest risk of spreading Covid, etc. Also of great significance is the fact that hundreds of thousands of Federal workers (who did NOT miss a paycheck) and Federal contractors live in D.C., Virginia and Maryland. The continuously employed Federal employees AND the policies, protections and lockdowns implemented by the leaders of D.C., MD and VA make this sub-region an outlier and should be identified as such when comparing unemployment rates within the context of Covid.
The politics and political leanings of Maryland, Virginia and DC are very different than the deep south and the housing market there is lighting it up. The ethnic demographics are very different and that influence is spilling over into NC, Georgia and SC as recent polling shows.
To lump them in with all of the Southern states for many comparisons is highly suspect. Just take income for example. The median income for the south is one thing including those jurisdictions . Pull those three out and compare them to the south without them.
Also they have much more population density and clearly the impact up until now has been heavier in more densely populated areas where the virus can spread more.
However regardless of where you live if you want to avoid crowds, social distance and mask up your odds to many of us to avoid the virus is much greater. Also avoid indoor dining and bars like the plague.
Again it is personal.
The politics and political leanings of Maryland, Virginia and DC are very different than the deep south and the housing market there is lighting it up. The ethnic demographics are very different and that influence is spilling over into NC, Georgia and SC as recent polling shows.
To lump them in with all of the Southern states for many comparisons is highly suspect. Just take income for example. The median income for the south is one thing including those jurisdictions . Pull those three out and compare them to the south without them.
Also they have much more population density and clearly the impact up until now has been heavier in more densely populated areas where the virus can spread more.
However regardless of where you live if you want to avoid crowds, social distance and mask up your odds to many of us to avoid the virus is much greater. Also avoid indoor dining and bars like the plague.
Again it is personal.
I do understand what you are saying but the South is the South. It is a region of the United States and defined by geography, not by politics, income or race. There's nothing suspect about it since it's about geography no different than the Northeast, or the West Coast is defined by geography. Because an area changes in it's politics and the people living there may change, it's location on a map is permanent. The state of Florida is the perfect example. Minnesota is very different than Ohio in many ways including household income, yet no one will argue they aren't both in the Midwest. Perhaps one could refer to areas as the Upper South, Mid South or Lower South in order to micromanage this region but it's still all the South. How one feels about an area has nothing to do with where it's located.
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Here in Tennessee today the numbers are 2608 new cases and a record 78 more deaths. It appears that the happy ending script written for this is not going well. So many here still won't wear masks and believe that this will just go away after Tuesday.
I do understand what you are saying but the South is the South. It is a region of the United States and defined by geography, not by politics, income or race. There's nothing suspect about it since it's about geography no different than the Northeast, or the West Coast is defined by geography. Because an area changes in it's politics and the people living there may change, it's location on a map is permanent. The state of Florida is the perfect example. Minnesota is very different than Ohio in many ways including household income, yet no one will argue they aren't both in the Midwest. Perhaps one could refer to areas as the Upper South, Mid South or Lower South in order to micromanage this region but it's still all the South. How one feels about an area has nothing to do with where it's located.
Actually those areas are mid Atlantic. There is a HUGE difference between these areas and SC southward. This is coming from someone who lived in NC for 25 years, lives in central VA now and grew up in and lived in MS. There is no comparison
Here in Tennessee today the numbers are 2608 new cases and a record 78 more deaths. It appears that the happy ending script written for this is not going well. So many here still won't wear masks and believe that this will just go away after Tuesday.
I'm in TN presently as well. I'm seeing less and less masks. Ugh.
Actually those areas are mid Atlantic. There is a HUGE difference between these areas and SC southward. This is coming from someone who lived in NC for 25 years, lives in central VA now and grew up in and lived in MS. There is no comparison
Well, actually the U.S. is divided by regions by the census bureau and then sub divided by divisions. Maryland, Delaware and Virginia are officially in the division of South Atlantic which is part of the South. How regions respond to Covid is up to individual states. They may not be anything like Mississippi, but they are Southern non the less. Demographics may change, cultures may change, but locations do not. The division of Middle Atlantic consists of New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Some or many people may feel and think Maryland, Delaware and Virginia are Middle Atlantic, but they are not in reality.
Well, actually the U.S. is divided by regions by the census bureau and then sub divided by divisions. Maryland, Delaware and Virginia are officially in the division of South Atlantic which is part of the South. How regions respond to Covid is up to individual states. They may not be anything like Mississippi, but they are Southern non the less. Demographics may change, cultures may change, but locations do not. The division of Middle Atlantic consists of New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Some or many people may feel and think Maryland, Delaware and Virginia are Middle Atlantic, but they are not in reality.
Watching trick or treaters outside this evening. We are not participating but usually get around 450. Not many houses with their lights on but those that do have them on are getting mobbed. No attempt at any kind of distancing or masking; adults and kids mixing as if the virus doesn't exist. I wonder how many cases we'll see in the next 10 days or so that are the result of this evening.
Watching trick or treaters outside this evening. We are not participating but usually get around 450. Not many houses with their lights on but those that do have them on are getting mobbed. No attempt at any kind of distancing or masking; adults and kids mixing as if the virus doesn't exist. I wonder how many cases we'll see in the next 10 days or so that are the result of this evening.
Yeah, I was shocked when our neighbors told us to be prepared our first year here. Back in Florida it got so that if we had half a dozen, it was a big year. But here we are a great place for the kids to come as it is a safe area with no traffic. So parents bring their kids from all over. We usually set up in the garage with the door open and hand out Little Debbie Oatmeal Creme Pies.
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