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Old 12-19-2016, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Maybe we should require passports for travel between states, so we catch more illegals? And make passports impossible to get with faked documents.
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Maybe we should require passports for travel between states, so we catch more illegals? And make passports impossible to get with faked documents.
Typical of your responses. You have no answers when the real issues are brought up so you try to deflect elsewhere.
But I give you credit, making illegal passports more difficult to get is a step in the right direction. Once again I'm glad to see you are starting to see the light.

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Old 12-19-2016, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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I know what it's like to be poor. It doesn't change my opinion about giving money to immigrants, legal or illegal. I'm not interested in breaking up families. Call them anchor babies if you want. I call them citizens. Change the Constitution if you don't like it.
So which is it? Typical of you . . .make a statement that sounds so noble yet isn't thought through.

You said you agree to deport criminals, yet here you say you don't want to break up families. So what do you do when illegals are criminals in your definition? In my definition they are all breaking the law by being here. In your opinion they have to commit other crimes on top of being here illegally.

You realize if a parent or child here illegally commits a murder or other heinous crime and gets deported a family gets broken up sometimes.

What then, which is it? You probably never thought this far in advance, you just like making random statements that you think make you look so enlightened and morally correct.

Nothing like when someone like you makes contradicting statements and basically invalidates their whole argument.

So break up the family or deport the criminal? How to you explain this?
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So break up the family or deport the criminal? How to you explain this?
When citizens go to prison they may result in a "broken" family. That enough isn't reason to leave them on the streets. If someone who is undocumented commits a serious crime and goes to prison or is deported that's unfortunate. No, I don't consider being here undocumented a reason to put someone in prison. We have too many people in prison as it is. And I don't think someone who is deported multiple times should be allowed back in, at least not without waiting a long time to get back in.
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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Can't wait until SF loses federal funding for trying to be a sanctuary for illegals.
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Can't wait until SF loses federal funding for trying to be a sanctuary for illegals.
Federal rules should always take precedence over state or local laws.
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Federal rules should always take precedence over state or local laws.
Especially for things like Immigration which are specifically under the purview Federal law.
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Especially for things like Immigration which are specifically under the purview Federal law.
Preach it!
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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Preach it!
Amen! Hallelujah! It's time for the return of the rule of law in California.

Once Trump is in office, people like Kevin DeLeon, and Newsom are going to be crying uncle once that Federal money tap is turned off.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Truth.

Did it ever occur to the illegal immigrant champions that the lives of American citizens are being adversely impacted, e.g. crime, housing availability, escalating medical costs ? Seriously. These dolts want to divert taxpayers money to protect non-citizens! I didn't vote Trump, but I totally understand why Americans did when it comes to this issue.
Schools are in ruin. Here in Los Angeles I know too many parents with kinds who left the city because the teachers are too busy trying to communicate with Spanish speaking kids. Or they pay $30,000 a year to send them to a private school.

Then the teachers instruct the students to pile into the streets to yell at drivers to vote for salary / pension raises, but it is "advertised" as being a tax raise "for the schools" or "for the children". Voters fall for it every time. I think our sales tax rate is like 10% in LA now.
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