Please, no more low income housing in Marin! (Los Angeles, Vallejo: affordable apartment, crimes)

[2sleepy]

It looks like Newsom figured out a very good way to 'encourage' places like Marin County to build a certain number of units of affordable housing...if they don't meet the goals they don't get their portion of gas tax revenue https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...dNQUlMLkNPTQ==

I bet Marin county will learn to love affordable housing once they are faced with that.

[Justabystander]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

True, dodge ... but low income housing isn’t comprised of view beachfront houses. It is small, efficiency apartments / condos with common grounds and some shared facilities on fringe properties. And the point is to bring affordable services as well as diversity to the wealthier area residents. So there’s benefit all round.

I totally agree. You might not like it, but it is necessary for the person who cuts your hair, is a crossing guard for your kids, works at the McDonald's down the street, etc. to be able to afford to come and provide those services and to add to the diversity of the town. San Francisco, and Marin County, are ridiculously expensive for the average wage earner at minimum wage; to ask them to commute miles for such a job is almost inhumane.

Such families add to the flavor of a vanilla school or town, and enriches society by not only making those individuals better by allowing them better services in the county and town they live in, but also provide a break in the unreal bubble of some affluent towns where kids are so sheltered from the real experience of others that it is almost harmful.

[Justabystander]

Originally Posted by phantompilot

Mandating that rich people build housing for poor people in their midst is a fool's errand. The only point of being rich is to improve your surroundings and experiences. People move up to get away from the unwashed (and uneducated, low class, etc) masses, not to wind up living next door to them.

Such a joke.

The "unwashed"? What a snob. I am sure my surroundings are as nice as yours, and such a term would never even cross my thoughts.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by Justabystander

The "unwashed"? What a snob. I am sure my surroundings are as nice as yours, and such a term would never even cross my thoughts.

Yep...just referring to the homeless teeming refuse that the Dems have been importing into the country....

That's literally their reference point. That's the poem they cite for an excuse!

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It looks like Newsom figured out a very good way to 'encourage' places like Marin County to build a certain number of units of affordable housing...if they don't meet the goals they don't get their portion of gas tax revenue https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...dNQUlMLkNPTQ==

I bet Marin county will learn to love affordable housing once they are faced with that.

Nonsense. No one wants affordable housing. It is being forced down people's throats. It is not a win-win either. The recipients win a subsidy and the surrounding neighbors "win" a decreased QOL due to the presence of the poor who bring nothing but problems.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Justabystander

I totally agree. You might not like it, but it is necessary for the person who cuts your hair, is a crossing guard for your kids, works at the McDonald's down the street, etc. to be able to afford to come and provide those services and to add to the diversity of the town. San Francisco, and Marin County, are ridiculously expensive for the average wage earner at minimum wage; to ask them to commute miles for such a job is almost inhumane.

Such families add to the flavor of a vanilla school or town, and enriches society by not only making those individuals better by allowing them better services in the county and town they live in, but also provide a break in the unreal bubble of some affluent towns where kids are so sheltered from the real experience of others that it is almost harmful.

So in other words it is good to bring some blight lest people "remain in their bubbles". In what ways, pray tell, are the newcomers "enriching" the existing residents? Decreased security/more crime, poor school performance, more trash on the streets, more juvenile delinquency?

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

There are no beach houses in Marin County, and subsidized apartments in Marin County simply means that a certain number of units need to be dedicated to low-middle income families. For forty years Marin County has pulled every trick in the book to make sure that all subsidized housing got built in Vallejo, that's just BS and needs to stop. Almost every major City in the US has apartment buildings that dedicate a small number of units to the poor/middle class, it has not negatively impacted the wealthy tenants.

1. Do you even think before you type? Marin County has beach houses unless you're going to tell me the houses in Stinson Beach, Dillon Beach, Bolinas , etc are all imaginary.
2. Marin County already has some subsidized housing, so there goes your statement that Marin made sure all the subsidized housing got built in Vallejo.
https://affordablehousingonline.com/...a/Marin-County

"There are 70 low income housing apartment complexes which contain 3,237 affordable apartments for rent in Marin County, California. Many of these rental apartments are income based housing with about 1,691 apartments that set rent based on your income. Often referred to as "HUD apartments", there are 767 Project-Based Section 8 subsidized apartments in Marin County. There are 1,546 other low income apartments that don't have rental assistance but are still considered to be affordable housing for low income families."

The BS that has got to stop is the stuff you make up to support your beliefs.
It's fun to tell others that are better off than you the sacrifices they have to make to accommodate others. Why try to better yourself with education and hard work when people like you will get housing for them in the best areas at taxpayers cost, which you've already said their income is low so they shouldn't have to pay for taxes.
I can't afford Marin County, but I know enough financially that I probably could game the system to make myself qualify for low income housing. "Only in America!"

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by Justabystander

I totally agree. You might not like it, but it is necessary for the person who cuts your hair, is a crossing guard for your kids, works at the McDonald's down the street, etc. to be able to afford to come and provide those services and to add to the diversity of the town. San Francisco, and Marin County, are ridiculously expensive for the average wage earner at minimum wage; to ask them to commute miles for such a job is almost inhumane.

Such families add to the flavor of a vanilla school or town, and enriches society by not only making those individuals better by allowing them better services in the county and town they live in, but also provide a break in the unreal bubble of some affluent towns where kids are so sheltered from the real experience of others that it is almost harmful.

My sister lives in Marin county and when I visit, there is no shortage of those workers at those places, so evidently those lower income people can make it work. Otherwise if it was such a hardship, why work in Marin? McDonald's pretty much pays the same in most areas so why go to Marin if it is costing you more to work there?

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It looks like Newsom figured out a very good way to 'encourage' places like Marin County to build a certain number of units of affordable housing...if they don't meet the goals they don't get their portion of gas tax revenue https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...dNQUlMLkNPTQ==

I bet Marin county will learn to love affordable housing once they are faced with that.

I used to live in Pleasanton and that city fought off low income housing for years. It was the perfect town with nice people and low crime. Well they got sued and lost millions and put in some lower income housing, some across the street from my gym. Well now people in the gym are having things stolen out of their lockers and car break ins. Coincidence?
I remember one person here on CD said it wasn't fair that the better areas had some low crime rates and that they should be forced to have low income housing so the crime could be spread around more. That was only fair.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Almost every major City in the US has apartment buildings that dedicate a small number of units to the poor/middle class, it has not negatively impacted the wealthy tenants.

Low-income housing (rental assistance) in Marin is based on a percentage of median income; but I don’t understand your comment, ‘it has not negatively impacted the wealthy tenants.’ Tenants in these buildings are not ‘wealthy’.